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Pierre Noe (Noue)

Dutch: Pierre Noe
Also Known As: "Nuee", "Nowe", "Nue", "Newe", "New", "Nui", "Niu", "Nouée"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Poitou, France
Death: December 1709 (68-77)
Rahway, Middlesex Co., New Jersey
Place of Burial: United States
Immediate Family:

Son of Pierre Noe, Sr.; Count of Chambray Pierre Noe, III; Sarah Anneke Noe and Sara Anneke Noe
Husband of Marguerite Clark Noe; Sarah Anneke Noe and Margaret Clark Dumont
Father of Maria (Mary) T. Trembley; Also Nover Nouee; John Noe, of New Jersey; John Noe, of Maryland; Elisabeth Noe and 3 others

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About Pierre Noe

Pierre Noe

  • Descendants of Pierre (Nué, Nuee) Noe
  • Pierre Noe
  • born - 1636, Poitou, France
  • died - 1709, Elizabeth, Essex or Union County, New Jersey.
  • parents - Pierre Noe and Sarah Jans
  • wife - Margaret Du Mont, born 1633, Wallsland, Zeeland, Holland. Daughter of Jean Du Mont and Jannetje.
  • children
  1. John Noe - born 1665 Kingston, Ulster County, New York, and died 1751 Piscataway, Middlesex County, New Jersey
  2. Mary Trembly Noe - born ca.1667 Kingston, Ulster County, New York, died Piscataway, Middlesex County, New Jersey

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https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/dumont/79/

Also known as Pierre Noue, Pierre Nuee, a Waldensian, came to New York from Waltsdant, France, April 10, 1663, and settled on Staten Island. Peter was known as a French Huguenot, the son of Pierre Noue, a Huguenot nobleman, who married for a 3rd wife a Holland Dutch woman by the name of Jahns.

He had valuable property on New and Broad Streets, New York City, where he resided part of the time. He also had large estates lying between Elizabethtown, NJ, and Woodbridge, NJ where he resided sometimes too.

There is a typewritten copy of his Will. The original was probated December 17, 1709.

Pierre Niu is the Dutch spelling. He arrived on the De Bonte Koe ( The Spotted Cow), Captain John Berger.

The Waldensian Church was founded by Peter Waldo (1140-1217), a rich merchant of Lyons, France. This sect had preserved the Christian faith in its simplicity from a very early age, until these valleys (the Piedmont) came into the possession of the Dukes of Savoy. The Dukes were violent Catholics.

Between 1487 and the close of the 17thC., the historians of the Waldensians count 33 distinct crusades waged against this innocent and unresisting people. One of the most dreadful occurred in April 1655 when, by the order of the Duke of Savoy, an army of 15,000 men entered the valleys and commenced a massacre which for horrors and cruelty is scarely paralled. This valley, the Cottian Alps on the border between Italy and France is about 30 miles from Grenoble. The book "History of Elizabeth, New Jersey, Including the Early History of Union County," by the Rev. Edwin F. Hatfield, D.D., 1868, says he may have been the son of Elias Neau and obtained his property by inheritance. In light of the above discussion, this is improbable.

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https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/noe@rootsweb.com/thread/32293435/

Pierre Noe, Nuee, Nowe, Nue, Newe, New, Nui, Niu

This is a most interesting French Huguenot family in the Protestant Families found in the vicinity of the Nantes before 1685 the year of "The Revocation". There was not only a representative of this family in the Ancienne Province of Poictos, but a very famous preacher, a leader of the refugees, Francois sieur de la Noue.

Walsdant was perhaps the birthplace of Pierre Noe: it is not specified as residence. It is possible that southwest of Geneva was the former home of the Noe family. It is somewhat accepted that the New Jersey Noes descend from Pierre, or Peter Noe, who was listed with 89 other passengers of the ship "T Bonte Koe" meaning Spotted Cow. Jan Hansen Bergen master, Dutch West India Company as Sailing April 16, 1663. Pierre came with his wife and her sister, also, a small daughter. (Walleran Dumont, brother of the sisters, came from Amsterdam, Holland to New Amsterdam 1657. He was unmarried and gave his birthplace as Coomen, Flanders. He came over either in the ship "Draetvat" Captain Beslevoer, which sailed from Amsterdam 2 April 1657, or in the ship "Jan Baptist" which sailed from the same port 23 Dec. 1657.)

In Dec. 1664 Pierre Noe was at Wilwyck, Wsopus, or Kingston, Ulster Co. NY, but it is uncertain how long he stayed there. The location of Pierre Noe on Stanton Island seems to have been near John King, Alexander Stuary, and Aaron Johnson. He lived by the "hy ways goeing mill on the south sid" New Creek, miss-named for him, "gave them access through the salt meadow to the lower bay." Just when Peter Noe removed from Stanton Island to Elizabethtown which included Radway, N.J. seems uncertain. In 1675, he became an Elizabethtown associate and in 1687, there is a record of the transfer to him by William Piles of land now in Clark township, possibly as a third lot right in Elizabethtown.

The will of Pierre Noe dated 1709, proved 1710 mentions daughter Mary (Noe) Trembles and his son John, or Jean Noe. The later was married by the Rev. M. Pierre Peirt on Sunday "2 xbre 1694" in the French church on Pettycoat-Lane, NY, to Elizabeth Damaris Girard, sister of, or daughter of Isaac Girard, whose wife was Marie Roubin, or Robin Girard.

From the will and inventory, it seems evident that Pierre Noe lived in 1709 in Radway "in Elizabeth Town" although he gave to his children respectively a house at the corner "of a street called Wall Street, adjoining to the house and land of Mortier, a comb maker," and a house at the corner of "a street called New Street, by the Broad Street and adjoining to the house of Nicholoas Deque, deceased, in present downtown New York."

The following is from the Register of Ancestors of the Huguenots of America

  • Walsdant Pierre Noe
  • Staten Island
  • 1663
  • Ship "Bontekoe" (Spotted Cow"
  • Married to Margaret Clark of London
  • Died 1709

Compiled for Max L. Noe

Shiawassee County Genealogical Society Vol 14, Bk 1 pg 24


DE BONTE KOE (The Spotted Cow)

Sailed from Amsterdam 16 April 1663, arrived in New Amsterdam between 11 May 1663 and 17 August 1663 Captain Jan Bergen
~• extracted list of three parties on the Spotted Cow:

  1. Pierre Niu, from the Pays de Vaud, [Walsland] and Wife, sucking child and sister
  2. Pierre Parmentie,[Parmentier/Palmentier] from Pays de Vaud, [Walslant] and Wife [Antoinette Terrin] and son 9 yrs
  3. Moillart Journay, [Meynard or Meyndert Journee who married Elizabeth Du Mont] from Pays de Vaud [Walslant]
  4. Martin Renare, from Picardy, and Wife and child 20 yrs ~• possibly the NA Reynarts family?

note: Three are from Vaud. #1 Pierre Niu may well be Pieter Pui who is seen in the NA {billard} baptism list here on GENi.

Pierre Niu aka Pierre Neau

Important ~• note various claims as to who is his wife
The surname Neau seems to be common in the Loire Valley.

version One (wife is Margaraet Dumont)

Pierre Neau, a Huguenot, born about 1635 in Poitou, France. He married Margaret DuMont on 24 Jul 1660 at the Huguenot French Church of Mannheim, Germany. Pierre, with his wife and infant child, came to Staten Island, New York in April 1663 on the ship De Bonte Koe (the Spotted Cow). They must have returned to Germany as additional children were baptized there in 1670 and 1673.
~• attn: Pierre Nui aka Pierre Neau is also chronicled as Pierre Noe

in part: "(Pierre Noe) died 17 Dec 1709 in Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey. The will of Pierre dated 1709, proved 28 Apr 1710, mentions his daughter Mary (Noe) Trembles, and his son John. The latter was married by the Rev. M. Pierre Peiret on Sunday, "2 xbre 1694" in the French Church in Pettycoat-Lane, New York, to Elizabeth or Elisabeth Damaris Girard, elsewhere referred to as Damaris, or daughter of Isaac Girard, whose wife was Marie Roubin. Witnesses: Elie Papin, Elie Van Bert, Charle Denizeau, Jeanne."

version Two (wife is Margaret Clark)

Source: The Huguenots or Early French in New Jersey by Albert F. Koehler, 1992, Clearfield Press. "Pierre Neau (Noe), a Huguenot, came to Staten Island from England in 1663 on the ship Bontecoe (the Spotted Cow). He married Margaret Clark of London in 1659. He first settled on Staten Island and later moved to Elizabethtown, where he was an Associate in 1695. He died in 1709. His son John was a resident of Middlesex County in 1694."

Discussion about Vaud and Walslant

"The location of Pierre (1) Noe on Staten Island seems to have been near John King, Alexander Stuart and Aaron Johnson (Stillwell's Historical and Genealogical Miscellany, Vol. 1, 1903, pages 7, 18, 23, 28, 35; Liber A of Richmond County, N.Y., Records). He lived by the "hy ways goeing mill on the south sid". New Creek, misnamed for him, "gave them access through the salt meadow to the lower bay" (Leng and Davis, 1:7, 104) on the westerly end "or south shore". Just when Pierre (1) Noe removed from Staten Island to New York or Elizabethtown which then included Rahway, N.J., seems uncertain. In 1675 he became an Elizabethtown Associate and in 1687 there is record of the transfer to him by Williams Piles of land now in Clark Township, possibly as a third lot right in Elizabethtown (Office of the Secretary of State of New Jersey, Book C of Deeds, page 306), cited by L. H. N. in "Jersey Genealogy", Newark Evening News, May 2, 1908. As "Parlivie, alias Peter Noie (Noe)" he acquired 394 acres, later more (Essex County, N.J. records, cited by Monnette, 1:58). Moilliart Journay or Meynard Journeay came in the same passage of the ship 'T Bonte Koe in 1663, with the Noe group, was listed as from Walslant, as was Pierre (1) Noe, and is said to have married later the then unmarried sister of the wife of Pierre (1) Noe, this spinster's place of residence being given at Middleburg, Zeeland, Holland (not stated on the passenger list). Pierre (1) Parmentie and Jerome Bocke also came on the same crossing, and were both listed as from Walslant. It can only be conjectured that this Walslant was "one of the first municipalities controlled exclusively by supporters of the Reformed religion", on the banks of Lake Geneva, as described under Pierre and Francoise (Dubois) Billew or Bellyew, from Walslant in 1661 ("Jersey Genealogy"{, June 19, 1915). Walslant was perhaps the birthplace of Pierre (1) Noe; it is not specified as residence. It is possible that a "Chambray(?)" tradition refers to Chambery, Department of Savoy proper, southwest of Geneva {south is more correct}, as a former home of the Noe family. The will of Pierre (1) Noe (Office of the Secretary of State of New Jersey, unrecorded, Vol. 5, page 149; N.J. Archives 23:342), dated 1709, proved 1710, mentions his daughter Mary (2) (Noe) Trembles, and his son John (2) or Jean (2) Noe. The latter was married by the Rev. M. Pierre Peiret on Sunday, "2 xbre 1694" in the French Church in Pettycoat-Lane, New York, to Elizabeth or Elisabeth Damaris Girard, elsewhere referred to as Damaris, sistor (or daughter, as estimated by the late Mr. Orra E. Monnette) of Isaac Girard (Monnette 2: 158), whose wife was Marie Roubin or Robin. Witnesses: Elie Papin, Elie Van Bert, Charle Denizeau, Jeanne Coulombeau, Judith Plau (Collections of the Huguenot Society of America, 1:39). From the Will and inventory, it seems evident that Pierre Noe (Peter Nuee) lived in 1709 in Rahway "in Elizabeth Town", although he gave to his children respectively, a house at the corner "of a street called Wall Street adjoining to the house and land of Mortier a comb maker", and a house at the corner "of a street called New street by the Broad street and adjoining to the house of Nicholas DePue, deceased", in present downtown New York. The witnesses to this will were: Jeffery Jones, Samuel Whitehead and Joanna Whitehead. The witnesses to the 1710 inventory were Jeffery Jones and Joseph Marsh (page 195 in same volume as Pierre Noe's will)." Boston Transcript, Oct. 4, 1937

my comment ~• the place name Walslant may well refer to the canton (Swiss state) of Valais (French rendering). In Germanic tongues is is Wallis. Chambery is not far from Wallis. ~• MMvB, vol. curator (2017)

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Pierre Noe's Timeline

1635
1635
Poitou, France
1636
1636
Poitou, France
1649
1649
Kirkcudbright, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland, United Kingdom
1650
1650
Tunaberg, Södermanland, Sweden
1653
October 8, 1653
Netherlands
1665
1665
Kingston, Ulster County, New York
1709
December 1709
Age 73
Rahway, Middlesex Co., New Jersey
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Kingston, Ulster County, New York, United States
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