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Robert FitzHugh de Grandmesnil

Also Known As: "FitzHugh de Grentemesnil", "de Grentmesnil"
Birthplace: Grentemesnil, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France
Death: Died in Saint-Evroult-de-Montfort, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France,
Place of Burial: Saint-Evroult-de-Montfort, 61385, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France
Immediate Family:

Son of Hugues de Grandmesnil, Sheriff of Leicestershire and Aélis de Beaumont-sur-Oise
Husband of Agnes (Adeliza) de Meschines, de Bayeux; Lucy de Savurius; Agnes de Meschines, of Chester and Emma de Grandmesnil, d'Estouteville
Father of Ivo de Grandmesnil; Guillaume de Grandmesnil; Yves de Grandmesnil; Aubrey de Grandmesnil; Guillaume (aka Hugues) de Grandmesnil, Heir of the honour of Grandmesnil and 1 other
Brother of Adeline (Adeliza) de Grentmesnil; Agnès de Grandmesnil; Hugues de Grentmesnil; Aubrey De Grandmesnil; Mathilde de Grentmesnil and 4 others

Occupation: Sieur, de Grandmesnil, Sénéchal, d'Angleterre
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About Robert FitzHugh de Grandmesnil

Alternative names: de Grantmesnil, Grentmesnil, Grandmesnil, Grentesmesnil

Robert de Grantmesnil

son of Hugues de Grantmesnil & his wife Adelise de Beaumont

three marriages: (1) Agnes de Meschines of Chester (2) Emma de Stuteville (3) Lucy de Beaumont-au-Maine

at least two children (mothers uncertain):

(1) "'Guillaume"' aka Hugues (see discussion below): (2) Agnes

According to the FMG Medieval Lands database,

Hugues de Grantmesnil & his wife Adelise de Beaumont were the parents of:

'''ROBERT de Grantmesnil''' ([before 1060]-1 Jun [1136], bur Saint-Evroul[313]).  
  • He is named, and his parentage given, by Orderic Vitalis, who also names his three wives and their fathers[314].
  • Considering that Robert's younger brother Guillaume was considered of marriageable age before [1081] (see below), it is unlikely that Robert was born later than [1060], although this would mean that he was probably in his fifties at the time of his first marriage (considering the estimated birth date range of his first wife) which seems surprising.
  • “…Rotberti de Grentemaisnillo, Ivonis de Grentemaisnillo…” witnessed the charter dated Sep 1093 under which William II King of England donated property to Lincoln cathedral[315].
  • "…Robert de Grentone-Maisnil…" witnessed the undated charter under which Robert III Duke of Normandy donated property to Saint-Etienne de Caen[316].
  • "Robert de Grantemsnil et Robert de sancto Serenico" confirmed donations of property to the abbey of Saint-Evroul made by "their progenitors Hugh and Robert de Grentemesnil" by charter dated to [1127/28][317].

m firstly AGNES [Aveline], daughter of RANULF "le Meschin" Vicomte du Bessin [Bayeux] [later Earl of Chester] & his wife Lucy --- ([1098/1105][318]-bur Saint-Evroul[319]). "Agnes" is named as first wife of Robert de Grantmesnil by Orderic Vitalis, who also names her father314.

m secondly as her second husband, EMMA de Stuteville, widow of ERRAND Sire d'Harcourt[320], daughter of ROBERT de Stuteville [d'Estouteville] & his wife Beatrix --- (-bur Saint-Evroul[321]). She is named as second wife of Robert de Grantmesnil by Orderic Vitalis, who also names her father[322]. The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified.

m thirdly LUCY, daughter of SAVARI de Beaumont-au-Maine & his wife Muriel de Méry. She is named as third wife of Robert de Grantmesnil by Orderic Vitalis, who also names her father314.

Robert de Grantmesnil & his [first/second/third] wife had [two] children:

a) PSW inserts: [GUILLAUME (see below) aka] HUGUES de Grantmesnil . "Hugues de Grantmesnil" is named as father of Pernel in an account of the foundation of Leicester Abbey, but the Complete Peerage casts doubt on the accuracy of this as the same source gives details of Pernel's inheritance from him which are clearly incorrect[323]. No other reference to this person has been found. As noted below, Pernel was most likely descended from the senior branch of the Grantmesnil family as she brought the Norman honour of Grantmesnil to her husband, but she may have been the daughter of Robert de Grantmesnil's daughter Agnes.] m ---.

[INSERTED CURATOR'S NOTE from PSW 8/2013: Chris Phillips on the site Medieval English Genealogy provides an update and correction to this account based upon a recent discovery of a charter for St-Evroult discovered by David Crouch [The Beaumont Twins, p.91, citing the Cartulary of St-Evroult, ii, fo 33v] showing that Pernel's father's name was William (or Guillaume). Based upon this evidence, as well as the lack of credibility of the foundation narrative of the Leicester Abbey that names her father as Hugues, it is more likely that this son of Robert's was named GUILLAUME de Grantmesnil. According to Phillips, "K.S.B. Keats-Rohan [Domesday People I, p.263 (1999)] states that Pernel's father William was the son of Robert by Emma d'Estouteville, but no evidence is cited for the relationship."]

[Guillaume]/Hugues & his wife had [one] child:

i) [PERNEL [Petronille] (-1 Apr 1212). Pernel is named as great granddaughter of Hugues de Grantmesnil in the [1190/1204] charter of her son Robert FitzPernel to the abbey of St Evroul[324]. Her father is named Hugh de Grantmesnil in an account of the foundation of Leicester Abbey, but the Complete Peerage casts doubt on the accuracy of this as mentioned above[325]. Robert de Torigny records that her husband gained the Norman honour of Grantmesnil through his marriage[326], which suggests that Pernel, as heiress, was descended from the oldest son of Hugues de Grantmesnil senior. It is possible that she was the daughter of Agnes, daughter of Robert de Grantmesnil. Considering that Orderic Vitalis does not name Hugues (supposed brother of Agnes) although he is so thorough in naming other members of this family, this is the most likely possibility. "Robertus filius comitis Legrece" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe for the soul of "uxoris mee Petronille" by charter dated [1153/67][327]. "Petronilla comitissa Leircestrie" confirmed the exchange of land with Nuneaton priory made by "Robertus comes Leircestrie filius meus", who gave land in Belgrave in return for land in Dadlington which had been donated by "sponsus meus Robertus comes…cum filia mea pie memorie Hawis", by charter dated to after 1189[328]. The Testa de Nevill lists knights who held land from the king in Hertfordshire, dated to [1204/12]: "comitissa de Leicestria" held "Wares"[329]. The necrology of Lyre monastery records the death "1 Apr" of "Petronilla comitissa Leicestriæ"[330]. The necrology of the monastery of Ouche records the death "1 Apr" of "Petronilla comitissa Leycestriæ"[331]. m (before [1155/59]) ROBERT de Beaumont "ès Blanchemains", son of ROBERT de Beaumont Earl of Leicester & his wife Amicie de Gaël (-Durazzo 1190). He succeeded his father in 1168 as Earl of Leicester.

b) AGNES de Grantmesnil (after [1115]-). Daughter of Robert de Grantmesnil according to Orderic Vitalis, who also names her husband and his parents[332]. It is not known from which of Robert's marriages she was born but her first name suggests that her mother was his first wife. The age of Robert when he married also suggests that the likelihood of his fathering children would have decreased with his later marriages. Her birth date is unknown, but it could not have been before [1115] at the earliest considering the likely birth date range of Robert's first wife. m ROBERT de Moulins-la-Marche, son of GUILLAUME de Moulins-la-Marche & his wife Aubrée ---. He was banished from Normandy by Henry I King of England after he attacked Enguerrand l'Oison, and went to Apulia with his wife "whom he had lately married" and died there "after several years as a wanderer among the dwellings of strangers"[333].

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Robert FitzHugh de Grandmesnil's Timeline

Grentemesnil, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France
Age 3
Hinckley, Lancastershire, England
Age 38
Age 40
Hinckley, Leicestershire, England
Age 43
England, United Kingdom
June 1, 1136
Age 84
Saint-Evroult-de-Montfort, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France,
December 3, 1934
Age 84
December 3, 1934
Age 84
December 17, 1934
Age 84