Sir Oliver of Carminowe

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Sir Oliver Carminowe, Knight

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Carminowe, Cornwall , England
Death: December 23, 1343 (68-69)
Carminowe, Cornwall , England
Place of Burial: Grey Friar`s Church, Bodmin, Cornwall, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Sir Roger de Carminow,"Crusader" and Joanna de Dinham
Husband of Elizabeth Carminowe; Elizabeth de Pomeroy and Isolda de Ferrers
Father of Sir Roger Carminow, of Carmynowe; John Carminow; Thomas Carminow; Richard Carminow; Maud Trevarthian and 3 others
Brother of Joan de Whalesborough; Matilda "Beatrice" de Ferrers (de Carminow); Minanus de Carminow; Reginald de Carminow; John de Carminow and 5 others

Occupation: Chamberlain to King Richard II of England, Lord Chamberlain
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About Sir Oliver of Carminowe

Primary Sources

Heirs of the Carmynowe manors, lands, and tenements taken from the Inquisition Post Mortem held in 1396 for Joan daughter of Thomas Carmynowe and the Inquisitions Post Mortem held in 1442 for John Arundell .

Oliver Carmynowe and Elizabeth his wife had issue: Roger, Elizabeth, and Maud.
Elizabeth, daughter, afterwards married John Arundell, knight, and Maud married John Trevarthian.
Roger had issue: Thomas Carmynowe, knight
Thomas had issue: Thomas
Thomas had issue: Joan
Joan died without heir of her body.
John Arundell, aged 28 years, and John Trevarthian aged 36 years, were her heirs.

John Arundell was son of John Arundell, knight, son of Elizabeth, daughter of Oliver Carmynowe, knight and John Trevarthian was son of Maud another daughter of the said Oliver Carmynowe, knight.

Partition was afterwards made of the Carmynowe manors, lands, and tenements. The manors of Carminow, Winnianton, and Kennall, the tenement in Philleigh, 100 a. wood in Treloweth and Sticker, 30 a. wood in Merthen, with advowsons of the churches of Philleigh and Whitstone were allocated to John Arundell, knight.

Oliver Carmynowe and Isolda his wife had issue: Margery and Joan

From the Inquisitions Post Mortem held in 1427 for John Cheynduyt.

Oliver Carmynowe, knight, was formerly seised in his demesne as of fee of the manors of Treverras and St Mawes, which he gave to the same Simon Berkley in frank-marriage with Margery his daughter.
Bartholomew was their son and heir
Benedict was his son and heir
Joan was his daughter and heir
John Cheynduyt was her son and heir, who died without heir of his body.

The manors reverted to John Petyt, esquire, as John’s kinsman and heir as son of Michael son of Joan daughter of Oliver. John Petyt was aged 60 years and more.

Notes

Oliver Carminowe

  • born 1274 in Carminowe, Cornwall, England
  • died 23 Dec 1343 in Carminowe, Cornwall, England
  • buried in the church of the Grey Friars, at Bodmin, Cornwall
  • father: Sir Roger Carminowe (1240-1308)
  • Joan de Dinham (died after 22 Feb 1309)

From The visitation of Cornwall in 1530:

From An Historical Survey of the County of Cornwall: To which ..., Volume 2, Part 1  By Charles Sandoe Gilbert

Oliver Carminowe, a person of great note in the time of Richard I], to whom, he had the honor of being lord-chamberlain. He died, (apparently very aged) in 1345, and was buried (together with Elizabeth, his lady, sister of John Holland, duke of Exeter,) in the church of the Grey Friars, at Bodmin, where they were for some time represented in efligy, she with a coronet, and he with his legs across.

family

Married:

  1. on 1305 in Carminowe, Cornwall, England to Elizabeth Pomeroy. Daughter of Henry de Pomeroy & Amice de Camville
  2. before 1314 to Elizabeth Holland. Daughter of Thomas de Holland & Joan Plantagenet. (this marriage is not noted in the Visitations of Cornwall)
  3. in 1333 in Carminowe, Cornwall, England to Isolda Ferrers. Daughter of Reginald Ferrers & Margaret Dennis. Was she also known as Sibella?

Sir John Petit married Joan daughter of Oliver Caminowe, not Margaret daughter of Thomas Caminowe. That error has come from an unreliable version of the Petit pedigree published in the Visitation of Cornwall 1620.

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Sir Oliver of Carminowe's Timeline

1274
1274
Carminowe, Cornwall , England
1312
1312
Of, Trenowyth, Cornwall, England
1313
1313
Trenowyth, Cornwall, England
1314
January 1314
Lanherne, Cornwall, England
1316
1316
Trenowyth, Cornwall, England
1323
1323
St Mewan, Cornwall, , England
1332
1332
Trenowyth, Cornwall, England
1338
1338
Trenowyth, Cornwall, England
1339
1339
Trenowyth, Cornwall, England
1343
December 23, 1343
Age 69
Carminowe, Cornwall , England