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Thomas de Ashton

Birthdate: (63)
Birthplace: Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
Death: 1460 (59-67)
Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Sir John Assheton, M.P. for Lancashire and Jane Assheton
Husband of Elizabeth Ashton
Father of Dulcia Gerard; Sir John Assheton; Edmund de Ashton; Nicholas Ashton; Assheton and 3 others
Brother of Laurence Ashton; Lucy Shirley; Robert Ashton; Elizabeth Barnes; Agnes Booth and 5 others
Half brother of Sir Roger de Ashton

Occupation: Knight, Alchemist
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About Sir Thomas "the Alchemist" de Ashton

Note

Thomas de Ashton (alchemist) is not, Sir Thomas de Ashton Lord of Croston d. 17 Oct 1407 and, is not the medieval Thomas de Aston, a 13th-century monk d. 7 June 1401: these two men are in Lincoln Cathedral.

Sir Thomas de Ashton or Assheton (fl. 1446), was an English alchemist.

Ashton was born in 1403, the son and heir of Sir John de Ashton, of Ashton-under-Lyne, who died in 1428. His half-brother Ralph de Ashton seems to have inherited the main family home, Ashton Hall. From roughly this date, differences appear in the coat of arms, motto and spelling of the two families, indicating that Sir Thomas may have distanced himself from his unpopular half-brother.

Permission was granted by Henry VI to Sir Thomas to transmute the precious metals, and on 7 April 1446 a special order was issued,[1] encouraging two Lancashire knights, Ashton and Sir Edmund de Trafford, to pursue their experiments in alchemy, and forbidding any subject of the king to molest them.

Sir Thomas married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John Byron, by whom he had eleven children. The eldest son, John, was knighted before the battle of Northampton, 10 July 1460, was MP for Lancashire in 1472 and died in 1508.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_de_Ashton_(alchemist)

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  • Sir Thomas Ashton1,2,3
  • M, b. circa 1400
  • Father Sir John Ashton
  • Mother Jane Saville
  • Sir Thomas Ashton was born circa 1400 at of Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England.4 He married Elizabeth Byron, daughter of Sir John Byron and Margaret Booth, circa 1422.
  • Family Elizabeth Byron b. c 1402
  • Children
    • Douce Ashton+2
    • Sir John Ashton+5 b. c 1423, d. 1508
    • Edmund Ashton, Esq.4 b. c 1425
    • Jane Ashton+6 b. c 1425
    • Elizabeth Ashton+7,3 b. c 1432
  • Citations
  • 1.[S8488] Unknown author, Burke's Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies, p. 20.
  • 2.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 249.
  • 3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 207.
  • 4.[S11580] A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, Vol. IV, by John Burke, Esq., p. 400.
  • 5.[S11576] A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies of England, Ireland, and Scotland, by John Burke, Esq. and John Bernard Burke, Esq., p. 20.
  • 6.[S61] Unknown author, Family Group Sheets, SLC Archives.
  • 7.[S11583] The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry, by Vernon James Watney, p., 771.
  • From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p912.htm#i27396
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  • A genealogical and heraldic history of the commoners of Great ..., Volume 4
  • http://books.google.com/books?id=KikAAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA401&lpg=PA401&dq=Margaret+Radclyffe+1476&source=bl&ots=OUpvVzw1r0&sig=a4jI1o8sv5hn8ZjyoIg7pQ-eJ0M&hl=en&ei=bLkGTJOmKZTWNunSqcAJ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CDAQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Ralph%20Standish&f=false
  • Pg. 248
  • EDMOND TRAFFORD, who was knighted by HENRY VI. at Whitsuntide, in 1426. He m. Alice, eldest daughter and co-heir of Sir William Venable, knight of Bolyn, by Joan, his wife, daughter of John Massey, of Tatton, and had issue,
    • JOHN, (Sir) his heir.
    • Joan, m. first, in 1429, to James Byron, grandson of Sir John Byron, and secondly, in 1443, to William, son and heir of Sir Alexander Radcliffe, of Ordsall.
    • Dulcia, m. in 1438, to Sir John Ashton, of Ashton.
  • Sir Edmond lived until 1457, when he was s. by his son,
  • SIR JOHN TRAFFORD, knighted about the year 1444, who m. Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Thomas Ashton, knight, of Ashton, and had issue, ....
  • Pg. 400
  • .... SIR JOHN RADCLYFFE, knt. of Catherton, married twice: by his second wife, Elizabeth, daughter of John Knyvett of Thirling, he had a son, EDMUND, ancestor of the Radclyffes of Broad Clist, in Devonshire; and by his first wife, Mary, daughter of Sir Thomas Tunstal, knt. of Tunstal, he had a son, JOHN, who m. Katherine, daughter of Richard Molyneux, of Sefton, and left three daughters his co-heirs, namely JOAN, m. to Edmund Ashton, esq. second son of Sir Thomas Ashton, knt. of Ashton-under-Line: MARGARET, m. to Ralph Standish, esq. of Standish; and ELIZABETH, m. to Robert Radclyffe, second son of Alexander Radclyffe, esq. of Ordsall.
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  • Sir Thomas Ashton1
  • M, #368932
  • Last Edited=19 Jun 2009
  • Sir Thomas Ashton lived at Ashton, Lancashire, England.1
  • Child of Sir Thomas Ashton
    • 1.Elizabeth Ashton+2
  • Citations
  • 1.[S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 1114. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
  • 2.[S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
  • From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p36894.htm#i368932
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  • Sir Ralph de Ashton or Assheton (fl. 1421–1486), was an officer of state under Edward IV of England.
  • Ashton was the half-brother of Sir Thomas de Ashton (fl. 1446) the alchemist, and the son of the Ashton mentioned by Froissart (see Sir John de Ashton (fl. 1370)). His mother was Margaret, daughter of Sir John Byron of Clayton. In his seventeenth year he was one of the pages of honour to Henry VI, and at the same early age he married Margaret, the heiress of the Bartons of Middleton, and became the founder of the family that held the lordship there until the 18th century, when it passed by the female line to the holders of the Suffield peerage.[1] His grandson Richard Ashton rebuilt St Leonard's church at Middleton in 1524. ....
  • From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_de_Ashton
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  • Sir John de Ashton or Sir John Assheton (died 1428), was an MP and soldier under King Henry IV and King Henry V.
  • Ashton was the grandson of Sir John de Ashton and his wife, Margary Legh. He was one of forty-six esquires who were summoned to attend the grand coronation of Henry IV in 1399, in honour of which event they were solemnly admitted to the Order of the Bath. ....
  • Sir John died in 1428. He was twice married (firstly to Isabel, heiress of Sir Richard Kirkby) and left many children, of whom the most distinguished were Sir Thomas de Ashton, the alchemist, and Sir Roger de Ashton, of Middleton.
  • From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_de_Ashton_(seneschal)
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  • A History and Genealogy of the Families of Bayard, Houstoun of Georgia: And ... (1919)
  • https://archive.org/details/ahistoryandgene02bullgoog
  • https://archive.org/stream/ahistoryandgene02bullgoog#page/n64/mode/1up
  • Pg.53
    • BYRON
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  • Sir John Byron of Clayton and Marjory Booth had issue:
    • 1. Richard Byron.
    • 2. Sir Nicholas Byron, married a daughter of Sir John Boteler of Beausay, and was ancestor of Lord Byron.
    • 3. Margaret Byron, married first, Sir William Atherton ; married second. Sir Maurice Berkeley. (She perhaps married third, Sir John de Assheton as his second wife).
    • 4. Elizabeth Byron, married Thomas Assheton.
    • 5. Jane Byron, married William Radclyffe.
    • 6. Catharine Byron, married William Brereton.
    • 7. Helena Byron, married ___
  • Of this marriage of Sir John Byron was a Margaret or Mary Byron who, according to authorities cited below, married Sir John de Assheton1 as his second wife. Sir John de Assheton's son by first marriage, Thomas Assheton, married Elizabeth Byron.
  • Note. — Sir John Byron had a daughter Margaret or Mary who, according to both Burke and Foster, married as his second wife Sir John de Assheton, as heretofore stated. Foster says daughter of John Byron, Esq., of Clayton ; Burke says Sir John of Clayton. Other authority places her as daughter of Sir John Byron by Alice Boteler, but it was the son Nicholas who married Alice Boteler. See Robertson et Durbin.
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ID: I187625

Name: Sir Thomas [@] de Ashton

Sex: M

Birth: 1398 in Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England

Father: John [IV @] de Ashton b: ABT 1368 in Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England

Mother: Jane [@] de Saville b: ABT 1370 in Tankersley, Wortley, West Ride Yorkshire, England

Marriage 1 Elizabeth [@] Byron b: ABT 1406 in Clayton, South Manchester, Lancashire, England

Children

Elizabeth [@] de Ashton b: ABT 1431 in Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
Thomas [@] de Ashton b: ABT 1436 in Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England

source:

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=gilead07&id=I253485

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Biography

Ashton, Sir Thomas (c.1403–c.1460), alchemist, was the son of Sir John Ashton (d. 1427) of Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, and his first wife, Jane Saville.

1415 -- Sir John Byron made a settlement of lands in Droylsden on the occasion of the marriage of his daughter Elizabeth with Thomas son of Sir John Ashton. [1]

Circa 1415 - 1422 -- Sir Thomas married Elizabeth, the daughter of Sir John Byron and Margery Booth, a relative of William Booth, bishop of Coventry and Lichfield (d. 1464).

1423 - 1432 -- John Ashton and Elizabeth Byron Aston had four children: two daughters (Jane and Elizabeth), and two sons (John and Edmund) --

   Sir John, born circa 1423 d. 1484
   Edmund, Esq., born circa 1425, died March 1490;
   Jane, born circa 1425;
   Elizabeth, born circa 1432. [2] [3] 

Research Notes

"John de Ashton is said to have distinguished himself at the siege of Noyon in 1370, (fn. 43) and represented the county in Parliament in 1382, 1388, and 1390. (fn. 44) He was apparently father of Sir John de Ashton his successor, (fn. 45) prominent in the French wars of Henry V, and Seneschal of Bayeux in 1416. (fn. 46) In 1413 Sir John obtained a release of the service due from the manor. After reciting that he held it of Sir Richard de Kirkby by the rent of 1d., and that Sir Richard held it of Thomas La Warre, lord of Manchester, by the rent of 22s. and a hawk or 40s., which services Sir John de Ashton had to render on behalf of Sir Richard, the feoffees of Thomas La Warre granted that Sir John, Sir Richard, and their heirs should be free from the said service after the death of Thomas. (fn. 47) This Sir John died in 1428, holding the manor of Ashton of Robert de Ogle (in right of his wife Isabel, granddaughter and heir of Sir Richard Kirkby), and other manors and lands. Thomas, his son and heir, then twenty-five years of age, (fn. 48) came to be known as 'the Alchemist'; " [4] Sources

   Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition. Volume II. Pages 249. Volume IV. Page 207. 
   John Burke, Esq., and John Bernard Burke, Esq. A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies of England, Ireland, and Scotland. Pages 20 & 400. 
   William Farrer and J. Brownbill, Editors. Townships: Droylsden, A History of the County of Lancaster. Volume 4. London. 1911. Pages 282 - 287. British History Online. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol4/pp282-287. Accessed by Michael Boynton on January 8, 2016 at 10:40 PM. 
   Anthony Gross,‘Ashton, Sir Thomas (c.1403–c.1460)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004; online edn, Jan 2008 

Sources Footnotes

   ↑ History of the County of Lancaster, pages 282 - 287.
   ↑ Magna Carta Ancestry, page 207.
   ↑ Genealogical and Heraldic History, page 20.
   ↑ William Farrer & J. Brownbill (editors)."The parish of Ashton-under-Lyne: Introduction, manor & boroughs." A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 4 (1911): 338-347. British History Online. Web. 08 November 2014. 

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ashton-173

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Name: THOMAS ASHTON Suffix: , KNIGHT Prefix: SIR 1 Sex: M Birth: ABT 1397 in ASHTON-UNDER-LYNE, LANCASHIRE Death: AFT 1446 in ASHTON-UNDER-LYNE, LANCASHIRE Occupation: THE ALCHEMIST Occupation: @N1193@ Note: 2

   We come now to the two most distinguishedof Lancashire alchemists, both knights, and at the head of the principal families of the county. They seem to have been actively engaged together in the delusive pursuit of the transmutation of metals; and, self-deceived, to have deluded the weak king with promises of wealth which never could be realised. These Lancashire adepts were Sir Edmund de Traffbrd, Knight, and Sir Thomas Ashton [of Ashton], Knight. The former was the younger of two sons of Henry de Trafford, Esq., and Elizabeth his wife, daughter of Sir Ralph Radcliffe, Knight. The elder son, Henry, dying at the early age of twenty-six years, this Edmund succeeded as his heir about King Henry V. (1414), and he was knighted by Henry VI. at the Whitsuntide of 1426. He married Dame Alice Venables, eldest daughter and co-heir to Sir William Venables, of Bcllyn, Knight. Their only son, Sir John Trafford, knighted about 1444, in his father's life-time, married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Thomas Ashton, of Ashton-under-Lyne, Knight; whilst Sir Edmund's youngest daughter, Dulcia, or Douce, married Sir John Ashton, a son of Sir Thomas, in 1438; so that the two families were connected by this double alliance. Sir Thomas Ashton, the alchemist, was the eldest son of Sir John de Ashton (Knight of the Bath at the coronation of Henry IV. in 1399, Knight of the Shire in 1413, and Constable of Coutances in 1417), and of his first wife, Jane, daughter of John Savile, of Tankersley, county York. Sir Thomas married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John Byron. The date of his death is not known. Sir Edmund Traffbrd died in 1457. Their supposed power of transmuting the baser metals into gold had great attractions for a weak king, whose treasury was low, and who was encumbered with debt. They were not mere adventurers, but men descended from ancient families, opulent, and of high estimation in their native county. Fuller found in the Tower of London, and copied,* a patent granted to these two knights by Henry VI., in the twenty-fourth year of his reign (1446), of which he gives the following translation :
   ? "The King to all unto whom, &c., greeting?Know ye, that whereas our beloved and loyal Edmund de Trafford, Knight, and Thomas Ashton, Knight, have, by a certain petition shown unto us, set forth that although they were willing by the art or science of philosophy to work upon certain metals, to translate [transmute] imperfect metals from their own kind, and then to transubstantiate them by their said art or science, as they say, into perfect gold or silver, unto all manner of proofs and trials, to be expected and endured as any gold or silver growing in any mine; notwithstanding certain persons ill-willing and maligning them, conceiving them to work by unlawful art, and so may hinder and disturb them in the trial of the said art and science: We, considering the premises, and willing to know the conclusion of the said work or science, of our special grace have granted and given leave to the same Edmund and Thomas, and to their servants, that they may work and try the aforesaid art and science lawfully and freely, without any hindrance of ours, or of our officers, whatsoever; any statute, act, ordinance, or provision made, ordained, or provided to the contrary notwithstanding. In witness whereof, &c., the King at Westminster, the 7th day of April" [1446.]*
   Fuller leaves this curious document, which might fitly have been dated the first instead of the 7th April, without a word of comment. The two knightly alchemists, doubtlessly imposing on themselves no less than on their royal patron, kept the king's expectation wound up to the highest pitch; and in the following year he actually informed his people that the happy hour was approaching when by means of " the stone" he "should be able to pay off his debts !"f It is scarcely necessary to add that the stone failed, and the king's debts must have remained unpaid, if his majesty had not pawned the revenue of his Duchy of Lancaster, to satisfy the demands of his clamorous creditors. Henry VI. was deposed by Edward IV. in March, 1461, and though he was nominally restored to the throne in October, 1470, he lost both crown and life in May, 1471, being found dead (most probably murdered) in the Tower on the evening or the morrow of the day on which Edward IV. entered London after his victory at Barnet. Such are some of the most notable facts in the practice of alchemy as connected with Lancashire. It will naturally be asked if alchemy is still practised in this county? We can only say, that if it be it is in very rare instances, and with the greatest secresy. The more chemistry is known?and the extent to which it has been developed within the last twenty years is truly marvellous?the more completely it takes the ground from under the feet of a believer in alchemy. It is not like astrology, which accepts the facts of the true science of astronomy, and only draws false conclusions from true premisses.

Change Date: 13 JAN 2014

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Father: JOHN ASHTON b: ABT 1367 in MIDDLETON, LANCASHIRE Mother: MARGARET BYRON b: ABT 1377 in CLAYTON HALL, MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE

Marriage 1 ELIZABETH BYRON b: ABT 1417 in CLAYTON, LANCASHIRE

   Married: ABT 1412

Children

   Has Children JOHN ASHTON b: ABT 1413 in ASHTON UNDER LYNE, LANCASHIRE
   Has Children JANE ASHTON b: ABT 1414 in MIDDLETON, LANCASHIRE
   Has No Children ALICE ASHTON b: ABT 1415 in MIDDLETON, LANCASHIRE
   Has No Children MARGARET ASHTON b: ABT 1417 in MIDDLETON, LANCASHIRE
   Has Children ELIZABETH ASHTON b: ABT 1431 in ASHTON-UNDER-LYNE, LANCASHIRE
   Has No Children DULCIA ASHTON b: 1433 in ASHTON UNDER LYNE, LANCASHIRE

Sources:

   Text: Book
   Text: Flower, William, Esq.
   Text: The Visitation of the County Palatine of Lancaster - 1567
   Text: The Rev. F. R. Raines, M. A.
   Text: The Chetham Society; Charles N. Simms; Manchester
   Text: LXXXI
   Date: 12 JAN 2014
   Text: Book
   Text: Harland, John & Wilkinson, Thomas Turner
   Text: Lancashire Folk-lore
   Text: Oxford University, 1867
   Text: Google eBook
   Date: 13 JAN 2014 

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bfulgham&id=I23046

Father: JOHN ASHTON b: ABT 1367 in MIDDLETON, LANCASHIRE Mother: MARGARET BYRON b: ABT 1377 in CLAYTON HALL, MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE

Marriage 1 ELIZABETH BYRON b: ABT 1417 in CLAYTON, LANCASHIRE

   Married: ABT 1412

Children

   Has Children JOHN ASHTON b: ABT 1413 in ASHTON UNDER LYNE, LANCASHIRE
   Has Children JANE ASHTON b: ABT 1414 in MIDDLETON, LANCASHIRE
   Has No Children ALICE ASHTON b: ABT 1415 in MIDDLETON, LANCASHIRE
   Has No Children MARGARET ASHTON b: ABT 1417 in MIDDLETON, LANCASHIRE
   Has Children ELIZABETH ASHTON b: ABT 1431 in ASHTON-UNDER-LYNE, LANCASHIRE
   Has No Children DULCIA ASHTON b: 1433 in ASHTON UNDER LYNE, LANCASHIRE

Sources:

   Text: Book
   Text: Flower, William, Esq.
   Text: The Visitation of the County Palatine of Lancaster - 1567
   Text: The Rev. F. R. Raines, M. A.
   Text: The Chetham Society; Charles N. Simms; Manchester
   Text: LXXXI
   Date: 12 JAN 2014
   Text: Book
   Text: Harland, John & Wilkinson, Thomas Turner
   Text: Lancashire Folk-lore
   Text: Oxford University, 1867
   Text: Google eBook
   Date: 13 JAN 2014 

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1397
1397
Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
1413
1413
Age 16
Derbyshire, England
1413
Age 16
Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
1415
1415
Age 18
Probably Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
1419
1419
Age 22
Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
1425
1425
Age 28
Probably Mercey Bank, Lancashire, England
1431
1431
Age 34
Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
1433
1433
Age 36
Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
1460
1460
Age 63
Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England