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Thoraldus de Strivelyn, Vicecomes de Strivelyn

Birthdate: (28)
Birthplace: UK
Death: 1153 (28)
Stirling, Stirling, UK
Place of Burial: Stirling, Stirling, UK
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Son of Sweyn Thorgilsson, of Strivelyn and Unknown wife of Sweyn Thorsson of Crawford
Husband of Unknown
Father of Walter de Strivelyn and Sir William Filius Thoraldi Vicecomes de Strivelyn
Brother of Swane; Daughter of Swein (of Mercia?); Eva Crawford; Alan Sweynsson of Tibbermuir and Crawford ; Galfridus de Crawford, {Fictional} and 1 other

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"TORALDUS VICECOMES, so named in a charter by David I, granting to Kelso Abbey a salt pit in Carsaak, dated "apud Strivelin",(Before 1147) Chart Kelso.

He is held to have been one of the distinguished strangers from the south, who were brought by David I, to civilize his native country; and from the names of the other witnesses to David's charter, must have been a person of the highest rank. John, bishop of Glasgow, one of these witnesses, having died in 1147, according to the Chronicles of Melrose and Holyrood, toraldus thus flourished at that early date. Nothing more seems to be known of him."

Source: quoted from " The Stirlings of Cragbernard and Glorat" by Joseph Bain, FSA. Scot. Edinburgh - Privately printed N° 125 - Pinted in 1883 and reprinted in 2000. (page 1) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Stirling

Motto:

Gang Forward

Lands:

Stirlingshire

Origin of Name:

Placename, Scotland

Clan Chief

Francis Stirling of Cader


Stirling History A man called Thoraldus de Strivelyn is believed to have started Clan Stirling. He was granted lands in Cadder by David I in 1147, and his descendent, Sir Alexander de Strivelyn, fifth Laird of Cadder, was recorded to have died in 1304. John de Strivelyn, Alexander’s son, was chief of the Stirling clan and at Halidon Hill in 1333 he led his men into battle against the English where he was killed.

Sir William de Strivelyn, grandson of John de Strivelyn, had two sons through which the chieftainship passed. For four generations the line went down through Sir William’s eldest son, also called William, and then, through lack of a male heir, it passed to the grandson of Sir William’s youngest son, John. John de Strivelyn was the sheriff of Dunbartonshire, as well as the governor of the royal Dumbarton Castle, which he held for James I. The king also appointed John Armour Bearer and Comptroller of the Royal Household, and in 1430 he was knighted. John’s son William was given the lands of Glovat, which had been held by the Earl of Lennox.

The lands of Keir in Perthshire were acquired by the Stirling family in the mid 1400s.

George, William’s son, became chief of the clan after the death of his father sometime in the first half of the 16th century, and he also held Dumbarton Castle. However, George fell out of favour with the King’s regent in 1526 when he fought on the losing side of the Earl of Lennox in a battle at Linlithgow Bridge, which was part of a power struggle for the control over the young James V. George’s lands were forfeited, but restored the year later. At the disastrous 1547 Battle of Pinkie Cleugh, George led his clansmen into battle against the English. He would later die from the wounds he received at the fight.

A feud existed between the Stirling clan and Clan Kincaid, which came to a head in 1563 when the two families battled. The chief of the Stirlings, Malcolm, lost an arm in the fight, however, this did not prevent him from going into battle again the next time the two met in 1581. This time the Kincaid chief was killed by a Stirling of Glovat.

Sir Mungo Stirling, the great-grandson of George, was a Royalist and strong supporter of Charles I (who had knighted him) during the Civil War. At the Battle of Philiphaugh in 1645 Clan Stirling fought under the command of James Graham the 1st Marquess of Montrose. The battle ended in a decisive victory for Sir David Leslie’s Covenanter army. In 1666 Charles II created George Stirling, Sir Mungo’s son, a Baronet of Nova Scotia.

During the Jacobite Uprisings, the Stirlings continued to remain loyal to the House of Stuart, supporting the Jacobite cause. This support saw the chief of the time, James Stirling, imprisoned and his lands forfeited, but he was later released and his estates returned.

Perhaps the best-known Stirling is Sir David Stirling. Sir David was the founder of the British Special Forces unit, the 22nd Special Air Service (SAS). During the Second World War, in the North African theatre, Stirling commanded the unit, whose actions behind enemy lines severely hindered the activities of General Rommel’s army. Francis John Stirling of Cadder is the current chief of the Clan Stirling.

Source:http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_clans/clan_stirling/history.html.

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Research » Family » St*rling DNA Project » Weather & WebCams » Hobbies » Misc Links » Thoraldus de Strivelyn THORALDUS DE STRIVELYN, Vicecomes de Strivelyn 1st Chief of the Name and Arms of Stirling 1st of Cadder, Lanarkshire, Scotland - Source: Burkes Landed Gentry

Just who was Thoraldus de Strivelyn, Vicecomes de Strivelyn? His name means Thoraldus of Stirling, Sheriff of Stirling

12th Century Wax Seal Thoraldus was born before 1147 - probably ca 1070-1090 - the son of Sweyn Thorlongusson and grandson of Thorlongus Leofwinson. The Sheriffs of Stirling, afterward Stirlings of Cadder and Ochiltree, and their representatives, come from this man. Thoraldus was a Saxon noble, one of the 'distinguished strangers from the south', who were brought by king David I ,the youngest son of Malcolm Canmore III and Saint Margaret (sister of Edgar Ætheling), to civilize Scotland; from the names of the other witnesses to David's charter, Thoraldus must have been a person of the highest rank. He was named in a charter by David I, granting to Kelso Abbey a salt pit in Carsaak, dated "apud Strivelin." John, bishop of Glasgow, one of these witnesses, having died in 1147, according to the Chronicles of Melrose and Holyrood, Thoraldus thus flourished at that early date.[1] In the Chartulary of Kelso there is a charter by David I, "to the abbey of Kelso, of a salt-pit in Carsaak, dated "apud Strivelin" which is witnessed "Roberto Sancti Andrea Episcopo; Johanne, Glasguensi Episcopo, Edwardo Cancellario; Duncano Comiti; Herberto, Camerario; Toraldo, Vicecomite; Alwino MacArchile, Uctredo filio Fergusii. All the above witnesses were persons of the highest rank and consideration, holding great public offices; and besides the first two Bishops of the Kingdom, the Chancellor, and Chamberlain, there is Duncan, Earl of Fife, Alwin MacArchile, held by antiquarians to be ancestor of the Earls of Lennox, and Uchtred, son of Fergus, the Lord of Galloway. Thoraldus is held to have been a Saxon chief or leader, whom, with various Saxons, Normans, and Strangers, David I, during what Chalmers styles the Scoto-Saxon period, imported into Scotland to colonize and civilize it. From the date of the above charter at Stirling, taken with what will follow, we may conclude that the Sheriffdom he undoubtedly held was that of Stirling. This charter must have been signed in or before 1147, that being the year when , according to the "Chronicles of Melrose and Holyrood" John, Bishop of Glasgow, a witness thereto, died.[2] See the article on Clan Stirling Online! about The Seal of Thorlongus Thorlongus was the grandfather of Thoraldus

Note: Recent Y-Chromosome DNA testing has shown that one group of Stirling test results are Haplogroup I with DYS values pointing to a Saxon heritage. This is consistent with Thoraldus’ Saxon heritage. Join the Stirling DNA Project. Sources: ↑ The Stirlings of Craigbernard and Glorat. Page A. ↑ The Stirlings of Cadder & Dumpellier Page 13

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I. TORALDUS VICECOMES, so named in a charter by David I, granting to Kelso Abbey a salt pit in Carsaak, dated "apud Strivelin." [Before 1147]

He is held to have been one of the distinguished strangers from the south, who were brought by David I. to civilize his native country; and from the names of the other witnesses to David's charter, must have been a person of the highest rank. John, Biishop of Glasgow, one of these witnesses, having died in 1147, according to the Chronicles of Melrose and Holyrood, Toraldus thus floourished at that early date. Nothing more seems to be known of him.

Source: "The Stirlings of Craigbernard and Glorat" by Joseph Bain, F.S.A. Scot. 1883, Edinburgh, Privately Printed.

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THORALDUS DE STRIVELYN, Vicecomes de Strivelyn 1st Chief of the Name and Arms of Stirling 1st of Cadder, Lanarkshire, Scotland - Source: Burkes Landed Gentry

Just who was Thoraldus de Strivelyn, Vicecomes de Strivelyn?

His name means Thoraldus of Stirling, Sheriff of Stirling


12th Century Wax SealThoraldus was born before 1147 - probably ca 1070-1090 - the son of Sweyn Thorlongusson and grandson of Thorlongus Leofwinson. The Sheriffs of Stirling, afterward Stirlings of Cadder and Ochiltree, and their representatives, come from this man.

Thoraldus was a Saxon noble, one of the 'distinguished strangers from the south', who were brought by king David I ,the youngest son of Malcolm Canmore III and Saint Margaret (sister of Edgar Ætheling), to civilize Scotland; from the names of the other witnesses to David's charter, Thoraldus must have been a person of the highest rank. He was named in a charter by David I, granting to Kelso Abbey a salt pit in Carsaak, dated "apud Strivelin."

John, bishop of Glasgow, one of these witnesses, having died in 1147, according to the Chronicles of Melrose and Holyrood, Thoraldus thus flourished at that early date.[1]

In the Chartulary of Kelso there is a charter by David I, "to the abbey of Kelso, of a salt-pit in Carsaak, dated "apud Strivelin" which is witnessed "Roberto Sancti Andrea Episcopo; Johanne, Glasguensi Episcopo, Edwardo Cancellario; Duncano Comiti; Herberto, Camerario; Toraldo, Vicecomite; Alwino MacArchile, Uctredo filio Fergusii. All the above witnesses were persons of the highest rank and consideration, holding great public offices; and besides the first two Bishops of the Kingdom, the Chancellor, and Chamberlain, there is Duncan, Earl of Fife, Alwin MacArchile, held by antiquarians to be ancestor of the Earls of Lennox, and Uchtred, son of Fergus, the Lord of Galloway. Thoraldus is held to have been a Saxon chief or leader, whom, with various Saxons, Normans, and Strangers, David I, during what Chalmers styles the Scoto-Saxon period, imported into Scotland to colonize and civilize it.

From the date of the above charter at Stirling, taken with what will follow, we may conclude that the Sheriffdom he undoubtedly held was that of Stirling. This charter must have been signed in or before 1147, that being the year when , according to the "Chronicles of Melrose and Holyrood" John, Bishop of Glasgow, a witness thereto, died.[2]

See the article on Clan Stirling Online! about The Seal of Thorlongus Thorlongus was the grandfather of Thoraldus

Note: Recent Y-Chromosome DNA testing has shown that one group of Stirling test results are Haplogroup I with DYS values pointing to a Saxon heritage. This is consistent with Thoraldus’ Saxon heritage. Join the Stirling DNA Project.

Sources:

↑ The Stirlings of Craigbernard and Glorat. Page A. ↑ The Stirlings of Cadder & Dumpellier Page 13 Retrieved from "http://rickster.org/wiki/Thoraldus_de_Strivelyn"

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