Matching family tree profiles for Totopotomoi, Weroance of the Pamunkey
About Totopotomoi, Weroance of the Pamunkey
July 27, 2017, the statement via email is from the Patawomeck Tribal Historian is: "If you study the Pamunkey matrilineal succession that determined the rulers of the Federation, it would be highly unlikely that Totopotomoi could have been a son of Nectowance. Since Cockacoeske was later the ruler of the Federation in her own right, not because she was Totopotomoi's widow, and is known to have been Opechancanough's granddaughter, it follows that "she" was Necotowance's daughter, by his traditional wife of the matrilineal succession." ~ ~ ~ ~Bill Devo, PATAWOMECK TRIBAL HISTORIAN
Logged in the Discussion Tab: Land Records, Trip to England, Land Succession show that Totopotomoi is not the same person as Toby West Two Sources for Toby West and 4 for Totopotomoi, and many pages of discussion, see Discussion tab: different ydna from de la Warr and the likely son of Totopotmoi, and his widow, John West of Glouchester, d. 1717. The line of this John West goes to Chowanke Tribe who have record of him being there in 1692 and have a lineage that they kept track of two "Indian" John West and one line claims descent from "Maj. John West", d. 1717.
Totopotomoi's sister, Nicketti, according to an 1847 book thence forth referenced of the Hughes/Davis line which goes to Pres Obama, Bill Clinton, and Jefferson Davis. SNP pedigree in FTDNA attached to their SNP testing for their autosomal studies. They are the Burnett, Barnett, Bowling, Davis, Hughes pedigree trees on FTDNA --connection line to connecting via Craven Co to Malungo Town and onto Newman's Ridge, TN. Their information comes from Rountree's book cited below and an 18oo's book to be cited. The Harrison SNP Circle continues to grow under Capt Rice Hooe's of New Kent, ydna R-M269 with 5th cousin matches connecting Harrison lines from Lett of Ohio and Hoosier of IN.
Possible Half 'Sibling or relation by maternal connection via Rachel Croshaw:
Henry West (1603 - 1628)** and or Toby West ("Signatory of 1655 agreement with Pamunky)
'=== Please do not use Wikipedia or Wikitree for this person's primary source, see Discussions tab as to the ydna study as the reason to that. Though not a primary source, we have this information here and not in the source section. Totopotomoi (Historical Marker/Monument) Mechanicsville, VA 1656 Totopotomoi Chief of the Pamunkey Indians, faithful ally of the English, killed in Battle of Bloody Run near Richmond 1754 Rural Plains Built 1670 Home of Sarah Shelton, married here to Patrick Henry 1864 Battle of the Totopotomoi --Preceding Cold Harbor Erected by Hanover Branch A.P.V.A.
Necto (c. 1600-1649) was the Wero (Chief) of the Pamunky tribe following the death of his father , OPECANCANOUGH/ Ope can cony [citation is NPS Study of the Capt John Smiith of Purton - Wicocomico State Park Study by Moretti & Langshot ] After his death he was succeeded by Totopotomoi as Wero of the Pamunky. He signed a Treaty with the Colony of Virginia in 1645,(Chowanoke Nation - Justin Petrone; Southern Tuscororan -Thomas Robbins) at which time he was called by the English "King of the Indians." (Screenshots for Toby West signature to be added to media section); thought by some researchers to be the signatory Toby West via signature which is not a mark, but a signature.
Opechancanough Wero of the Pamunky 1644-1649 Nectowance in 1618 as Werorance of the Powhatan Confederation. Totopotomoi - Suceeded Nectowance in 1630 when Nectowance died. Roundtree View: Sister to Nichetti from whom the Davis/Bollings/Burtons/Barnett/Burnetts/Andersons SNP testing triangulate to Chromosome 7 and 14 for the mean of 53 kits of King Powhatan DD to Lovey Harris Bass and Tabitha Harrison DD kits x 12; on record as of July 23, 2017 of the King Connect Project; replicating what was already public search for the Harrison/Anderson FTDNA in pedigree layout form for their one line to Trader Hughes to each other; now, compared to Rice Hooe I descendnants. 5th cousins as a group with MRCA common name Harrison, in down line of LNU "Sarah" Hooe/ Mrs Rice Hooe I of Shirley Hundred Acres (New Kent Family) with Seymour wife bringing Capt Rice Hooe his noble tie.
The burial site of all the Sachem on Pamunky Reservation since1648, houses the remains of earlier leaders, including remains of Opachanacanough and others brought to the burial mound interment after reinterred after the original Bloody Run burial where he Totopotomoi died. The bones or mummified remains of earlier leaders were entombed at the sacred Uttamussak temple.
- "Middle Peninsula Historic Marker "Cockacoeske"
"The Powhatan Indians of Virginia: Their Traditional Culture. Rountree, Helen C., University of Oklahoma Press, 1989. ISBN 0806121564
"Cockacoeske, Queen of Pamunkey: Diplomat and Suzeraine.", Martha W. McCartney, 1898 - in "Powhatan's Mantle: Indians in the Colonial Southeast.", P. H. Wood and G. A. Waselkov, eds. Pp 173-195. Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press.
- LAND OWNERSHIP TO FREE PEOPLE OF COLOR. It happened. For the 260,000 FPOC -free people of color who were documented as tithable, some were land owners and some were even slave owners. Regardless, the Toby West who passed on 300 acres was a patent that was inherited by Cockacoeske vs Toby West; was then past down to Maj John West d.1715, first of land ownership; the 300 tract of Maj James West d 1716 VERSUS the Maj John West md to Susannah Cocke whose will states he had purchased their land from William Green; different 500 acre land and different John Wests.
John West, the Indian, have DNA studies in FTDNA via STP and also SNP triangulations to Craven Co and Wayne Co descendant cousins.
Maj John West -d. 1716's "500 acres originated via 1653 grant to the Interim Gov West is not the same 500 acre tract granted to Toby West the very same day. Different land.
Toby West patented 500 acres in Gloucester County on 27 May 1654 is the same day that the Stratford Co Esqr.-Maj John West /Capt. John West, Esqr,LAWYER, patented his 1000 acres in Gloucester Co. (Cavaliers and Pioneers, Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, by Nell Nugent, p. 232). All are different people.
Totopotomoi, Chief of the Pamunkey, married Cockacoeske, grand-niece of Pocahonta; supported the English Colonists; served with Colonel Edward Hill in the bloodiest battle known to have been fought between Native Americans on Virginia soil, the war between the Siouan and Algonquian tribes, and was slain at the first Battle of Bloody Run on January 1, 1656.
After Totopotomoi's death, Toby West's 300 acres passed to Cockacoeske's son, Maj. John West. See the discussion section of the profile of Col John West Ii on the partnership with Cockacoeske and the questions about Joseph Crowshaw and Rachel Powhatan; Col John West II being a first cousin Toby West and having head right patents patented for transportation of 10 people to Surry in 1653 and there makes the place of Toby West a 3x patent prooven transporter of people. See the discussion about Toby West being a different person than Totopotomoi.
Pamunkey were part of the Powhatan Confederacy.
Totopotomoi is not the ydna bio son of the de la Warrs. Having no ydna descendant, Toby West is presumed to be son of Rachel Croshaw via Thomas West, 3rd Baron de la Warr, the daughter as the ydna for the person he willed Cockacoeske's 300 acres to is his likley son with an I -S ydna, Maj John West d 1716 ; meaning, if he is the dad of Maj John West then he is not de la Warr ydna as their ydna is R M269. He is said to be the son of Necto, (looking it up...https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/jame1/moretti-langholtz/index.htm ( National Park Study, Danielle Moretti-Langholtz, Ph.D.).
No Proof: By some accounts, he was born in England when his mother Rachel Powhatan accompanied Pocahontas there. Pocahontas and her entourage resided at Lord de la Warr's country estate, Blackhurst Park, in Sussex while in England. Rachel married or took up with Col. Joseph Croshaw from Virginia either while in England or after her return to Virginia. He was the son of Capt. Raleigh Croshaw, one of the founders of Jamestown.
Toby West patented 500 acres in Gloucester County on 27 May 1654, the same day that Capt. John West, Esqr, patented 1000 acres in Gloucester Co. (Cavaliers and Pioneers, Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, p 232). Tototomoi became Chief of the Pamunkey and married his cousin Cockacoeske, grand-niece of Pocahontas. He supported the English Colonists, serving with Colonel Edward Hill in the bloodiest battle known to have been fought between Native Americans on Virginia soil, the war between the Siouan and Algonquian tribes, and was slain at the first Battle of Bloody Run on January 1, 1656. After his death, Toby West's property passed to Cockacoeske's son Maj. John West.
" Cockacoeske became the Queen of the Pamunkey after her husband Totopotomoyâs death in 1656 fighting as an ally of the English at what became known as the Battle of Bloody Run. She signed the Treaty of Middle Plantation in 1677 in the wake of settler attacks upon friendly Indian tribes during Baconâs Rebellion in 1676. The treaty with the English subtly placed Cockacoeske as leader over certain tribes, defined the Indian tribes as tributaries to the English, and ushered in peaceful relations between the colonists and Indians of the Virginia coastal plain. She reigned until her death about 1686." From this it appears that the son John West age 20 at the 1677 signing of the Treaty was a posthumous son of her husband Totopotomoy (Toby West).
Toby Totopotomoy - West
Birth: 1616 East Sussex, England Death: Jan. 1, 1656 Richmond Richmond City Virginia, USA
The Chief of the Pamunkey died in the Battle of Bloody Run; dad of Maj John West, d. 1716; has descending lines via his Maj James West d.1715 line; ydna study showing in the FTDNA pedigree; not able to be the bio son of Thomas West, third Baron de la Warr, and "Rachel" Powhatan as they have different ydna; likely different from Toby West -nephew of Pocahontas; may still be bio son of Rachel's whose father was possibly a brother of Chief Powhatan; may be a son of Rachel's mother as a sister of Powhatan.
Rachel Powhatan accompanied Pocahontas to England where Toby West was conceived and, by some accounts, born. Pocahontas and her entourage resided at Lord de la Warr's country estate, Blackhurst Park, in Sussex while in England. Rachel married or took up with Col. Joseph Croshaw from Virginia either while in England or after her return to Virginia. He was the son of Capt. Raleigh Croshaw, one of the founders of Jamestown, but was in Bermuda and also England (ref., Shawnee Heritage by Don Greene; also Monteith Family and the Potomac Indians by William Deyo).
William Deyo, official Tribal historian of the Pamunkey, wrote: There is overwhelming evidence that Maj. John West was the son of Cockacoeske and her second husband John West II. That was before DNA y study of the West family showing groups 7 a, b, c, in the statement on the FTDNA site of said study as being non-related to each other. (free to search). The thought had originally be that Toby West was a de la Warr as Posted online by Paul Brockman, Dec. 6, 1998: "Looking for confirmation or refutation of Leonard West's thesis that Joseph West, of "The Joseph", Frederick (now Montgomery) County, MD, may have been son of Totopotomoi of the Pamunkey Nation (Powhatan Confederacy), and that Totopotomoi may be the Thomas or Toby West who patented land above John West of West Point and the same Thomas West who was sent to school at St. George's, Bermuda."
Non Proven Descendant Lines: Toby West and Cockacoeske were: Patrick Henry, the orator and Governor of Virginia; Dolly Madison, wife of President James Madison; Dabney Carr (1743-1773), Virginia burgess and brother-in-law of President Thomas Jefferson; Lady Nancy Astor, first woman to sit in the British House of Commons; President Zachary Taylor and his daughter Sarah Knox Taylor, the first wife of President Jefferson Davis of the Confederacy; Confederate Gen. J.E.B. Stuart; Gen. Edmund Pendleton Gaines; Col. George Strother Gaines; and numerous other notable Southern families.
Disproven Parent on the paternal side:: Thomas (3rd Baron de la Warr) West (1577 - 1618) Rachel Powhatan Croshaw (1600 - 1646) Proven Spouse by Treaty signing: Cockacoeske Powhatan West (1634 - 1686)* No Proof Children: Joseph West (1650 - ____)* Jane Totopotomoi West Harrison (1650 - ____)* Maj John West of Glouchester received his mothers' land which was originally patented by Toby West, the 300 acre parcel, which Maj John West, the Indian, received from his mother upon the death of Totopotomoi. Sibling: Henry West (1603 - 1628)** Toby West (1616 - 1656)