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Not the wife of Theobald le Fleming. Perhaps the wife of William I, 1st lord of Douglas (died c. 1214); not his mother. Likely the sister of Freskin of Kerdal (Freskin de Kersdale, of Moray).
William of Douglas (died c. 1214) was a medieval nobleman living in Clydesdale, an area under the control of the King of the Scots.
"The origins of William are uncertain, the first of the name of Douglas to appear on historic record. He appears as witness to a charter of Jocelin, Bishop of Glasgow in 1174 in favour of the monks of Kelso Abbey, at which time he was in possession of the Lands of Douglas.[1] It seems he was the son of Theobald le Fleming (born 1120, Aldingham Manor, Lancashire, England died 1193, Douglasdale, Midlothian, Scotland) and his wife, the sister of Freskin de Kersdale (of Moray).
But according to Medlands, she is better placed as William de Duglas' wife (a generation later).
The wife of Sir William, 1st of Douglas is not known for certain. His second son Brice was Bishop of Moray. The name of Freskin of Kerdal is listed among the benefactors of the bishop's first cathedral of Spynie whom Brice refers to as uncle, suggesting that his mother may have been Freskin's sister. Although nothing is known of Freskin's ancestry he is supposed to be of the family De Moravia (or de Moray) based on land holdings in Strathnairn. The proper name Margaret is speculative.
William of Douglas may have married a sister of Freskin of Kerdal (Freskin de Kersdale of Moray, de Moravia), a Flemish laird from Moray. He had issue:
- Archibald I (-1213), Lord of Douglas, married Margaret, daughter of Sir John Crawford of Crawford
- Hugh de Douglas (ca. -1245), a canon of Spynie, Archdeacon of Moray
- Bricius de Douglas (ca. -1222), Bishop of Moray
- Alexander de Douglas (ca. -1238), a canon of Spynie, vicar capitular of Elgin
- Henry de Douglas (ca. -1245), a canon of Spynie
- Freskin de Douglas ( -September 1232), parson of Douglas, later Dean of Moray
- Margaret de Douglas (-1260), married Hervey de Keith, Marischal of Scotland[4]
See https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20LATER.htm#_T... for the family. Cawley has no birth dates for any of them.
Origins
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20LATER.htm#_f...
[Two probable siblings, parents not identified]:
- Unknown parent
- 1. FRESKIN [IV] of Cardell (-after [1203/22]). He is named in the [1203/22] charter cited below under his supposed sister. He was presumably related to Hugh [II], father of William de Sutherland, considering that Hugh’s [1211] charter cited above was witnessed by “...Hugone Duglas, Freskyno Duglas...”, sons of his supposed sister. .... m ---. The name of Freskin’s wife is not known. Freskin [IV] & his wife had one child:
- a) [MARJORY] . A charter dated 1234 records an agreement between "capitulum Moraviense" and “dominum Alexandrum de Striuelyn...et heredes sui si quos habuerit de sponsa sua...filia bone memorie...domini Freskyni de Kerdal” relating to "dimidiam dauacham terre...apud Deveth", by undated charter (dated to after 1222), witnessed by “Freskyno decano...”[382]. Her name is indicated by the following (unless the person in question was Alexander Stirling’s second wife): Fraser cites “an entry in an old inventory of the [Kilravock] family” which refers to a “charter of donation by Marjory de Moravia, widow of Sir Alexander Stirling” granting “the lands of Cantra Freskyn” to “her daughter Isobel” [undated], but dated to [1253/98] as witnessed by Archibald Bishop of Moray (who held the bishopric between those dates)[383]. m (before 1234) ALEXANDER de Stirling, son of --- (-after 1234).
- 2. [--- . The family origin and marriage of the wife of William Douglas are indicated by the undated charter under which her son Brice Bishop of Moray confirmed "ecclesiam de Deveth" to the church of Moray at the request of "Freskyni de Kerdal avunculi nostri"[384]. Fraser dates this charter to [1203/22][385]. If “avunculus” in this document was used in its strict sense of maternal uncle, Freskin of Cardell was the brother of the bishop’s mother. m WILLIAM [I] de Douglas, son of --- (-1213 or after).]
- 1. FRESKIN [IV] of Cardell (-after [1203/22]). He is named in the [1203/22] charter cited below under his supposed sister. He was presumably related to Hugh [II], father of William de Sutherland, considering that Hugh’s [1211] charter cited above was witnessed by “...Hugone Duglas, Freskyno Duglas...”, sons of his supposed sister. .... m ---. The name of Freskin’s wife is not known. Freskin [IV] & his wife had one child:
Old notes
Kersdale de Moravia was born about 1132. Kersdale married Theobold de Fleming. Theobold was born in 1125, in Aldingham Manor, Lancashire, England.
They had one son: William Douglas.
References
- Sir James Balfour Paul, Editor, 1906, The Scots Peerage, founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Published by David Douglas, Edinburgh, Scotland>William de Douglas, Vol III, pps 132-5 < Archive.Org >
- https://wc.rootsweb.com/trees/135503/I6000000000189830522/kersdale-... (dead link)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freskin cites
- Paul, Sir James (1909). The Scots Peerage. Vol. 2. Edinburgh: David Douglas. p. 121. < Archive.Org >
- Paul, Sir James (1909). The Scots Peerage. Vol. 8. Edinburgh: David Douglas. p. 319. < Archive.Org >
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I,_Lord_of_Douglas (see citations)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freskin
- http://www.montyhistnotes.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I440...
- http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/De_Moray-2
- https://www.douglashistory.co.uk/famgen/getperson.php?personID=I145... "Margaret De Kerdal"
... de Moravia's Timeline
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Elgin, Moray, Scotland
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1166 |
1166
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Douglasdale, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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1171
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Scotland
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1177
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Crawford Douglas, Ayrshire, Scotland (United Kingdom)
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1205
Age 65
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Douglasdale, Hermiston, Midlothian, Scotland
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Douglas Castle, Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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