Beranger, Count of Bayeux

Berenger De Bayeux

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Birth 847 - Place

Death 893 - Place

Siblings Pepin De Vermandois

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(Probably) not the same as Berengar ll, of Neustria. Proposed as father of Poppa of Bayeux.

BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]). The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. As explained below, one way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.]

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21. BERENGER (-[886 or after]). Comte de Bayeux. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[934]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[935], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume.

m [as her first husband] --- [du Vexin], daughter of PEPIN [Carolingian] & his wife ---. One way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct. [She married secondly Wido [Guy] Comte de Senlis.]

Berengar & his wife had one child:

• a) POPPA . ... ... ... ... ...

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Known as the father of Poppa in the annals of Rollo. No independent information.

Count of Bayeaux, which Rollo conquered, killing Berengar and marrying his daugher "in the Danish fashion".

Discussion

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From http://www.cynthiaswope.com/withinthevines/Normans/WmConqAhn/AT01/A...

While the identification of Poppa of Bayeux may be uncertain, many reputable genealogists continue to name her."82

James Allen Stevens in his webpages citing post in SGM:

"David Geen, Editor of "The American Genealogist postd to GEN-MEDIEVAL on 12/09/99 that . "Katherine Keats-Rohan, in her article article on "Poppa of Bayeux and Her Family" in the 75th-anniversary issue of TAG (July-October 1997). . . accepts, as I think do most scholars, the early identification of Poppa's father as Berengar, marquis of Neustria. She then works with the hypothesis that Poppa's name indicates descent from the Popponen, a dynastic family that tended to bestow the name "Poppo" on the second (or at least not the eldest) son. She proposes that Poppa was a granddaughter of Heinrich of Thuringia and his wife Ingeltrude, daughter of Louis the Pious [RIN 1212], which would give this family a Carolingian descent; Heinrich was a brother of Poppo II. She suggests two hypotheses for the connection between Heinrich and Poppa: Either Berengar of or his wife Adalind was a child of Heinrich. . Later commentary on the Popponen, with pedigree charts, appears in Donald C. Jackman's _Criticism and Critique: Sidelights on the _ (Oxford, 1997), the first (and currently the only) volume in a major series entitled _Prosopographica et Genealogica_, edited by K. S. B. Keats-Rohan and Christian Settipani." "14

From: Gordon Fisher SGM:

"Most ancestries for Poppa, wife of Rollo, list Beranger, Count of Bayeaux as her father, and do not identify her mother or any further ancestry for Beranger. This includes Moriarty, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 11; Weis, Ancestral Roots [121E-18]; Winkhaus, "Normandie," p. 133; Europaische Stammtafeln, ii, 79; Turton, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 6; Stuart, Royalty for Commoners [166-35]; Joannis & Saint-Jouan, i, 4.