Hydrophobia/rabies

Started by Judith Berlowitz on Thursday, December 10, 2015
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12/10/2015 at 11:39 AM

Hi all,
Which is the best category for hydrophobia secondary to a dog bite?

12/10/2015 at 11:52 AM

I think it should be its own project. It would be related to / sub project of

http://www.geni.com/projects/Killed-by-an-animal/28154 which is characterized as an unnatural death by coroners

http://www.geni.com/projects/Unnatural-death-causes/28264

Perhaps consider it hydrophobia secondary to "any" rabid animal? Bats seem to be more of an issue nowadays

http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/location/usa/surveillance/human_rabies.html
http://www.who.int/rabies/en/

12/10/2015 at 11:56 AM

I think I've got a profile under killed by an animal, which was specifically rabies. We could have a sub project under "killed by an animal," if we end up with lots of them.

12/10/2015 at 12:02 PM

It's an interesting project idea, isn't it? Speaks to primal fears of slavering animals from horror films ....

12/10/2015 at 12:07 PM
12/10/2015 at 1:06 PM

The killed by horse accident is under this umbrella too I think

If we ever find actual and non legendary humans thrown out of sleighs to appease wolf packs we can add that in.

Mauled by tigers. Have we got any?

I should probably stop thinking about this now.

Sharks! Bears!

12/10/2015 at 7:14 PM

There's a wonderful "wrestled that killer bear and won" story on the "bad** of the week" site.

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12/10/2015 at 7:26 PM

That's more of an infectious disease I'd say, a fatal one.

12/10/2015 at 8:08 PM

The infectious disease "problem" is that it's rare (except in zombie movies) for human to human transmission.

12/10/2015 at 8:41 PM

I absolutely am against a death by zombie project. Also aliens and vampires.

Unless there are Fictitious Projects, as there are Fictitious Profiles.

In that case we could add dragons to the death by animal umbrella.

12/10/2015 at 8:50 PM

Could go in the Harry Potter project (if that's still running)

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Committee_for_the_Disposal_of_Dan...

12/12/2015 at 2:34 PM

I would reject both the "killed by animal" and "unnatural causes" categories for hydrophobia/rabies. Maybe it should be something like "animal-transmitted diseases." It's the disease, not the animal, that kills. The animal usually dies of it as well.
(Did anyone in this group ever read dog-centered fiction in which perfectly innocent, heroic dogs, were accused of being rabid because they were slavering?)

12/12/2015 at 2:35 PM

Erica, Love the image!

12/12/2015 at 3:22 PM

oooh, that is an excellent point.

Though then my horse accident deaths would need to come out from under the killed by an animal as well, as they very seldom actually MEAN to kill you when they run with the carriage out of control (that being all mine so far, I think).

Yes, Poor Cujo is a good example.

12/12/2015 at 4:02 PM

Cujo was tragic ....

"unnatural causes" meaning, my understanding is, any sort of accidental death: "misadventure" is perhaps the under utilized category.

I think there are very few actual "man eating predators" out there and surely the vast majority of "killed by an animal" is "misadventure.". Even "killer bears" are usually just defending their young, and just kind of fall on you to get "you" away from the babies ...

So I'm thinking of retooling the whole category.

12/12/2015 at 4:04 PM

Some of my East Texas profiles died from falling off horses; it wasn't just carriage accidents. I filed that under "killed by horse."

Seemed reasonable to me at the time.

12/12/2015 at 4:10 PM

(consulting the chart before I email the (fictional) Dr. Kay Scarpetta, forensic pathologist ...)

two different categories

- attacked by an animal
- death by misadventure

What does high school student Julia say?

http://www.nature.com/scitable/blog/viruses101/is_rabies_really_100...

... Rabies is an ever present virus; found on all continents except for Antarctica, rabies kills over 55,000 people each year. ...

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So .. I think Yao is winning it. Should go under infectious diseases, regardless of mode of transmission?

12/12/2015 at 4:12 PM

Anne - what about those pigs put on trial in the middle ages?

Any horses ever accused of deliberately causing death? I think it's always accidental?

12/12/2015 at 7:03 PM

It's always accidental. Even if they kill outright it's cause they are panicked.

The pigs. Hmmm. Well it's like the bears and the sharks. Sometimes the animals get out of hand b

12/12/2015 at 7:24 PM

Killer pigs on trial: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_trial

As for the wolves and whomever it is that gets thrown out of the troika -- no evidence of that, really; just a VERY popular story with many variations (the oldest we have being from Aesop). Also, I realized that though it would indeed be "killed by an animal," it's also "Murder using animals as method." So if it comes up, there's that.

But on the other hand, if the wolves take the troika down on their own, definitely just simply death by animal attack.

AS for instance! The dingo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Azaria_Chamberlain

12/13/2015 at 1:05 PM

http://publicdomainreview.org/2011/03/27/bugs-and-beasts-before-the...

"Evans’ book details more than two hundred such cases: sparrows being prosecuted for chattering in Church, a pig executed for stealing a communion wafer, a cock burnt at the stake for laying an egg. As I read my eyes grew wider and wider. Why did no one tell us this at school? Why were we taught so many dreary facts of history at school, and not taught these?"

12/14/2015 at 12:59 PM

OK, got the "rabies" project started (under infectious diseases)

http://www.geni.com/projects/Died-of-rabies/30442

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