Samuel Shattuck of Salem - Born abt 1620. The 1630 was copied from erroneous info from the old IGI era.

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First Last
11/6/2016 at 3:46 AM

See discussion about his birth at http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.shattuck/456/mb.ashx

See problem with "Sibley" as his mother's name there also. Someone got Damaris, mother of Samuel, confused with Damaris Sibley born 1666 to Richard and Hannah.

First Last
11/6/2016 at 4:03 AM

We don't know where he was born because we can't prove where his parents were from. No marriage record for them found to date.

He wasn't born in 1630. If you have Ancestry see

http://mv.ancestry.com/viewer/c8892e85-5c13-45b9-9ef1-60bb7292c7c1/...

Otherwise see image with age (as mentioned in his will at the link in the first post) at
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=shatt...;...;

Remember, Find-a-Grave is not always documented or correct. For example, the text about the inscription isn't correct. Look on the stone for the actual spelling which is how he appears on his children's birth records.

William 1622-1672 is also not proved to be a member of the family of Damaris UNK.

1/3/2017 at 11:56 AM

Done.

1/3/2017 at 1:29 PM

From Torrey's New England Marriages: Samuel Shattock 1620-1689 married 1st Grace ? by 1649 Salem, 2nd Hannah ? Salem. This is the son of Samuel the immigrant. In Pope's Pioneers of Massachusetts the son Samuel is called "the son of the widow Damaris who married 2nd Thomas Gardner" 1642.
For Samuel the immigrant I have b. 1594 Dorset, England d. abt. 1640 Mass. married abt. 1620 England to Damaris Sibley b. 1597 England d. Sept. 28, 1674 Salem, Mass.

First Last
1/6/2017 at 12:41 PM

Hi Steven:

We have no confirmed first name for Mr. Shattuck and no confirmed last name for Damaris. If you have some documentation I've missed on his birth, marriage, bapts of the kids, and death please advise.

The Mass Vitals were misread by the indexer who didn't know what 28: 9m: 1674 meant in 1674. I haven't checked anyone but the Gardners, but I have a feeling every entry for that batch are off by 2 months.

See all I have for the many questions remaining about this family here:
http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.shattuck/456/mb.ashx

and here page 361
http://tinyurl.com/ShattuckBook
(note the death date of her 2nd husband is reported incorrectly).

Nothing new has been found about Damaris since Lemuel Shattuck wrote the book.

Hope to hear from you soon with new information I've missed.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,
Shirley

1/6/2017 at 4:45 PM

We have only one new piece of information since Lemuel Shattuck; he wasn't sure what had become of the male descent from the Hero Quaker.

That grandson's death however was reported in Lynde's diaries and no known children.

Capt. John Shattuck looks to have been the last male progeny of the widow Shattuck & her unknown Shattuck husband (variously seen as John, Samuel and William).

Sibley doesn't work as a maiden name for the widow, the chronology of the SIbley family among other proofs.

12/14/2022 at 3:10 PM

Another reason we know that he thought he was born around 1620 is that Samuel stated in court records on 27 Jun 1678 when he was Administrator of Estate of Edward Wharton that he was about 58 years old (Essex County, Massachusetts Depositions, 1645-1686 -- Vol 7, p 60).

9 Oct 1681:
"Sam’ll Shattock, Senr., Sam’ll Shattock, Junr"are being handed over Executorship from George Wharton of England for the estate of Edward Wharton, (late of Salem, Essex, MA)

PLEASE NOTE MONMOUTH COUNTY, NEW JERSEY: Mr. Wharton bought land.

According to Jeffrey O. Brown - 2022
at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pi4wqdlapuj9unl/William%20and%20Hannah%20...

29 Oct 1681
". . . Edward Wharton invested in the Monmouth purchases, along with the Tilton’s, the Reape’s, and others, apparently not to settle there, but to aid in the establishment of a place free from religious persecution. Edward Wharton reportedly died March 3, 1677-8 at Salem, and his brother George, being of London, seems to have engaged Samuel Shaddock, Sr., and his son,
to assist with handling the estate in America"

The records are in the Monmouth, NJ records but Jeffrey says none of the surnames appearing as witnesses, or "in front of", etc., appear in Monmouth. But those surnames appear in Salem, so it's unknown if either of the two Samuels ever appeared in New Jersey or did all the paper work from Salem.

This proximity does not mean they knew the Quaker William Shattuck 1628-abt 1714 (the shoemaker who fled to Rhode Island and then New Jersey.) He is sometimes referred to as William Shattuck of Boston because he lived there in the mid-late 1650s. He was NOT born there.
He married a Hannah UNK.

What William is often confused/combined/comangled with the William Shattuck (1622-1672) who settled in Watertown. He married a Susanna UNK.

Hannah and Susanna are not the same person and we don't know the maiden name of either.

Nor the parents or siblings fo EITHER of the two Williams.

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THIS DOES NOT RELATE TO SAMUEL SHATTUCK THE PERSON WHOSE PAGE THIS IS but I don't want to lose it.

THIS is about William "the shoemaker" of New Jersey:

"The last recorded evidence of William Shattock when he was known to still be living was on October 6th, 1714, when William “Shadock,” Yeoman, late of Shrewsbury, Monmouth County, NJ, now of Burlington County, NJ, sold a tract of 92 acres of land . . ."

See Jeffrey O. Brown's DETAILED CITED work on William of New Jersey

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pi4wqdlapuj9unl/William%20and%20Hannah%20...

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