North Carolina Harvey family's conflicting trees

1/13/2020 at 11:32 PM

Hello,

I am starting this discussion because we seem to have some confusion in the family trees of the early Harveys of North Carolina.

Starting with Deputy Governor Thomas Harvey, Sr.. The notes in his about section place his origin in Snitterfield, England as the son of John and Mary Harvey of Snitterfield. The research references primary sources which match clues in his will and other documents and so this connection seems solid.

This means that he is neither the son of Virginia Governor Sir John Harvey (d. c1650) or of North Carolina Governor John Harvey (d. c. 1680), who married Dorothy Tooke.

Deputy Governor Thomas Harvey, Sr.'s will references four relatives: two brothers, "Robert Harvey of ye Heath in Sniterfield Parish in Warwickshire" and "Richard Harvey late of London." (Secretary of State, North Carolina Wills, 1663-1789, stack file no. S. S. 847, North Carolina Archives, Raleigh, North Carolina.) and two nephews John Harvey and Thomas Harvey, sons of his brother Richard. His nephew was probably the Thomas Harvey who married Margaret Harvey.

Based on this I have disconnected Richard Harvey (who is the brother of Deputy Governor Thomas Harvey, Sr.) from North Carolina Governor John Harvey and moved him to be the brother of Deputy Governor Thomas.

Now on to the Geni parents of Deputy Governor Thomas Harvey, Sr.: Currently we have John Harvey (before 1639 - 1692 in Virginia) and Mary Harvey "of the Heath". The dates and locations for the parents are almost certainly wrong, perhaps the result of a continued confusion with North Carolina Governor John Harvey. The maiden name of the mother is Tooke, which once again is probably from the same confusion, as the NC Governor John Harvey married a Dorothy Tooke.

The next generation, grandparents of Deputy Governor Thomas Harvey, are John Harvey and Mary Harvey "of the Heath". I suspect that these grandparents are duplicates of the parents and I think that the two generations should be merged together.

Lastly, Capt. John E. Harvey, Sr. of Virginia is currently listed as a son of Col. Thomas Harvey, Jr. and grandson of Deputy Governor Thomas Harvey, Sr.. This is incorrect because John, the real son of Col. Thomas Harvey Jr., was a prominent NC politician during the early Revolutionary War. See https://www.ncpedia.org/biography/harvey-thomas-jr
I suggest that we disconnect John E. Harvey from Col. Thomas Harvey Jr.

Would anyone like to make any corrections or additions to any of the changes mentioned above? If so then let me know!

Sincerely,
Tamas Caldwell-Gilbert

Kathy Jo Bryant

1/14/2020 at 2:19 PM

Hello Tamas,
Thanks for all the updates/observations you have laid out. I am a little familiar with the cousin of Governor John Jenkins who took governorship next in line. I was not aware they were cousins until the last several years. An online biography from Wikipedia, I think. If they were cousins, it should make it even easier to tell which Harveys are which. I am an 8th great granddaughter of Governor John Jenkins. Kathy Jo Bryant

Erica Howton C

1/14/2020 at 5:44 PM

Thank you Tamás Flinn Caldwell-Gilbert for your work straightening out this family. Looking a lot better.

Tamás Flinn Caldwell-Gilbert C

1/14/2020 at 7:05 PM

I cleaned up what I could. I found the profile for Col. John Harvey, son of Col. Thomas Harvey, Jr., but he had been attached to the wrong Thomas Harvey, so I moved him over to where he belonged.

I found another Harvey who does not belong to this specific family: Michael Harvey, Sr was a Quaker in Randolph County, NC and was not the son of John Harvey and Mary Bonner of Perquimans County, NC.

I decided to lock the relationships on a couple of the more sensitive profiles because there are just too many incorrect family trees out there.

Private User

11/29/2023 at 11:51 AM

Thank you for all of the work that has been done straightening out the Harvey line. I have been digging through the profiles of the Harvey's in Geni hoping to find family information.

I have spent many hours digging for my 5th G Grandfather (George Harvey) with no luck. I am hopeful that one day he will be identified as a child in one of the Harvey profiles on Geni. I have not been able to identify which line came from and I know very little about him. Many people on Ancestry have identified his father as John Harvey and his mother as Mary Hannah Bonner, but I can find no information that validates these claims.

He was born around 1750 (not sure of location, but most likely VA or NC). He served in the Revolutionary War (1st MD Regiment) with another 5th G Grandfather (John Pearce) in the same regiment. I have found a couple of documenting the two Grandfathers serving together. He purchased several pieces of land after the war in Iredell County, NC (1795, 1799, 1805), but sold off all of the land in Iredell County in 1814. I'm not sure where he went after he sold off all of his land. I did find an 1800 Census for Salisbury, Iredell Co, NC with a George Harvey. I feel quite certain this is him. It notes 3 daughters and 2 sons. One of the sons is the correct age to me my 4th G Grandfather (Allen Harvey), who was also born in Iredell Co, NC.

I would love to find more information on George, his father, mother, spouse and other children. If anyone has any information I would greatly appreciate the share.

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