Query on John William PHILPOTT wives

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John William Philpott 1846-1927 has 2 wives with similar names and both are listed as the mother of his children

Caordian / Catherine (Caordian) Philpott 1851-1931 daughter of Heinrich BENDER 1813-1887 and Elizabeth LAUB 1813-1893

Catherine Davis 1849-1934 daughter of Henry Woolf 1824-1890 and Abigail Woolf 1826-1915

Children

Can anyone add any information on this family?

1851 England Census

  • Henry age 26

wife Abagail age 25

  • daughter Julia age 4
  • daughter Catharine age 2

1861 England Census

  • Henry age 38
  • wife Abigal age 36
  • daughter Julia age 14
  • daughter Rose age 9
  • son Michael age 8
  • son Lewis age 6
  • son Emanuel age 4
  • son Isaac age 2
  • daughter Annie age 6 months

1871 England Census

  • Henry age47
  • wife Abagail age 45
  • daughter Julia age 23
  • daughter Catherine age 22
  • daughter Bon age 19
  • son Michael age 18
  • son Lewis age 16
  • son Emanuel age 14
  • son Isaac age 12
  • daughter Annie age 10
  • daughter Rachel age 7
  • daughter Sophia age 5
  • son Moses age 4

1871 England Census
John PHILPOTT age 24
wife Catherine age 19

Henry Woolf and Abigail Woolf have 2 daughters called Catherine born within 2 months of each other

Catherine Davis born 9 April 1849 died 1934 married John William Philpott

Catherine Davis born 6 February 1849 died 1924 married DAVIS

Obviously one (or both) is incorrectly attached

Can anyone provide any information on them?

7/29/2021 at 3:53 AM

Having trawled through all the handwritten birth records for England & Wales for all of 1849 on Ancestry, I have only found two possible records for all the variations of "Catherine" and "Wolf". I then looked on the GRO database and found:
GRO Reference: 1849  M Quarter in WHITECHAPEL  Volume 02  Page 621 WOOLFE, CATHERINE     ABRAHAMS  

GRO Reference: 1849  J Quarter in BOLTON UNION  Volume 21  Page 133 WOLFE, CATHARINE     FARRON  

Do you know where the precise dates of birth came from?

7/29/2021 at 4:09 AM

It would seem that the Catharine Wolfe who born in Bolton was the daughter of William Wolfe and Isabella (or Isabel) Ferrin who were married on 22 Aug 1841 in Farnworth With Kearsley, Lancashire, England. Catharine married John Hopkins on 11 Nov 1880 at St. Michael's, Stockport, Cheshire, England. It seems unlikely that she is relevant to your enquiry

7/30/2021 at 4:37 AM

The birth records of all the children of John William Philpott (except the oldest) have been located in the GRO database and are shown on their profiles. All show that the Mother's maiden name was Bender (or Binder or Bentley).
I have therefore removed the couple "JW Philpott with Catherine Woolf" as the parents of all the children

Furthermore:
1. the Sources supporting both Catherine Woolf and Catherine Davis (Woolf) are identical - thus very strongly suggesting that they are one and the same person.

2. there is no supporting evidence to show that Catherine Woolf married John William Philpott

3. the family tree of Michael Sone on Ancestry at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/4884776/person/-... which includes John William Philpott shows that he had only one wife, Catherine Bender, and they had ten children - of whom, per the 1911 census, nine were then still alive

I conclude that the Master Profile for Catherine Woolf (born 9 April 1849) should be deleted

I merged the Catherine WOOLF’s and detached her from PHILPOTT

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