Ariaantje Gerritsdogter Willemse, b3 SM - Alternative Data After Merges

Sharon Doubell C

10/5/2021 at 11:52 PM

Birth Surname Willemse van Cathryn

Private User

10/6/2021 at 11:56 PM

http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g7/p7299.htm

Baptism Register, Palmkronieke I Baptisms,

Arien zoon van Gerrit Willems: de moeder Marij Cornelis is gedoopt dj 20en Janùarij 1696 als getùijge Pietter Gerritsz: Jette Wittebol.

https://www.eggsa.org/cgi-bin/dosearchBaptisms.pl

Arien
Baptised: 20 Jan 1696
Father: Gerrit Willems
Mother: Marij Cornelis
Witnesses: Pietter Gerrits , Jette Wittebo

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Source: Nederduits Gereformeerde Gemeente (NGK), Stellenbosch, Baptism register, 1688-1732, page 12 (2). Repository: NG Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, G2 4/1. , 1688-1732, page 12 (2)Transcribed by Ockert Malan, Lorna Newcomb and others. See also Die Stellenbosse Heemkring

Sharon Doubell C

10/7/2021 at 12:24 AM

son?

Sharon Doubell C

10/7/2021 at 12:29 AM

You're right - the problem is whether our Ariaantje Ariaantje Gerritsdogter Willemsz, b3 SM and Anna Brand, SM are the same person as ffy's Antje http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g7/p7313.htm

I'd hoped Arien was the solution - but not if he's male :-/

Sharon Doubell C

10/7/2021 at 12:30 AM

cf Arien Willemse, b3

J P Weyers

10/7/2021 at 12:32 AM

Arien Willemse, b3

J P Weyers

10/7/2021 at 12:39 AM

Name Gerrit Willemsz
Sex Male
Baptism Date 01 Apr 1668
Baptism Place Utrecht, Nederland
Baptism Place (Original) Utrecht
Father's Name Arien Willemsz
Mother's Name Aeltjen van Hardenberg

origin of the 2 children's names ?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLDG-JR46

J P Weyers

10/7/2021 at 12:47 AM

Her estimated d.o.b and baptism 1698 -- those baptism documents end 1697 and till October 1698 missing in the Cape .

J P Weyers

10/7/2021 at 1:29 AM

male or female ?

(The entries for 1697 stop here. This register jumps from last date on page 8, 17 Nov 1697, the first entry on page 9, which is 5 Oct, most likely 1698, followed by 2 Nov 1698. This seems to suggest that when the register was bound, or maybe rebound, that some pages went missing. One whole year seems to be missing and probably representing four pages by the look of how may per year at this time, about 32 baptisms altogether. The handwriting from p. 8 to p. 9 remains the same.)

https://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/index.php/church-registers/cape-tow...

Sharon Doubell C

10/7/2021 at 10:15 AM

https://www.geni.com/discussions/238379?msg=1509105 agreed

Sharon Doubell C

10/7/2021 at 10:15 AM

https://www.geni.com/discussions/238379?msg=1509105 whose?

Sharon Doubell C

10/7/2021 at 10:17 AM

male: "Arien zoon van Gerrit Willems:"

http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g7/p7299.htm

Baptism Register, Palmkronieke I Baptisms,

Arien zoon van Gerrit Willems: de moeder Marij Cornelis is gedoopt dj 20en Janùarij 1696 als getùijge Pietter Gerritsz: Jette Wittebol.

https://www.eggsa.org/cgi-bin/dosearchBaptisms.pl

J P Weyers

10/7/2021 at 10:36 AM

Ariaantje Gerritsdogter Willemsz ?
Surely female ?

Sharon Doubell C

10/7/2021 at 10:22 PM

Yes. Different people.

the problem is whether our Ariaantje Ariaantje Gerritsdogter Willemsz, b3 SM and Anna Willemse, b4 SM are the same person as ffy's Antje http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g7/p7313.htm

Or if we have info ffy doesn't on another daughter

J P Weyers

10/7/2021 at 10:33 PM

Familysearch.org also have Adriana/ Ariaantje Willemsz separate from Anna .
However no source for her except her name as Ariaantje linked to possible grandfather Arien Willemsz .

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