This profile states Simon (1250-1316) the 1st Baron Montagu, was the son of Simon de Montagu and Aufrica daughter of Fergus de Courcy. I think they are the wrong parents. The correct parents are likely William and Bertha.
MEDLANDS STATES SIMON'S PARENTS WERE WILLAM AND BERTHA
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3L-O.htm#Si...
SIMON de Montagu, son of WILLIAM de Montagu & his wife Berthe --- (after 1250-26 Sep 1316, bur Bruton Priory). Confirmation of charters in favour of the canons of Christchurch Twynham, dated 27 Nov 1313, includes a charter under which "Simon de Monte Acuto, son and heir of William de Monte Acuto" confirmed a conveyance made by "William de Monte Acuto" of the town of Pideleton, for the souls of "William his father, and Hawise wife of the said Simon" dated May 1287[377]. He was summoned to parliament 29 Dec 1299, whereby he is held to have become Lord Montagu.
m firstly ([1270]) HAWISE de Saint-Amand, daughter of AMAURY [II] de Saint-Amand & his wife --- (-before May 1287). Confirmation of charters in favour of the canons of Christchurch Twynham, dated 27 Nov 1313, includes a charter under which "Simon de Monte Acuto, son and heir of William de Monte Acuto" confirmed a conveyance made by "William de Monte Acuto" of the town of Pideleton, for the souls of "William his father, and Hawise wife of the said Simon" dated May 1287[378].
m secondly (1287 or before) ISABEL, daughter of --- (-after 1290).
Simon & his [first/second] wife had one child:
1. WILLIAM de Montagu (-Gascony 18 Oct 1319).
WIKIPEDIA STATES SIMON'S PARENTS WERE WILLAM AND BERTHA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Montagu,_1st_Baron_Montagu
He was son of William de Montacute and Bertha, his wife.
SIMON'S WIFE WAS HAWISE AND HIS FATHER WAS WILLIAM. HIS GRANDFATHER SIMON IS SAID TO HAVE MARRIED AN AUFRICA, A DAUGHTER OF FERGUS OR GRANDAUGHTER OF JOHN DE COURCY WHO DIED CHILDLESS
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Mo...
Britannica 1911
MONTAGU (Family).
William Montagu of Shepton is among the knights summoned by Henry III. to the Gascon War and to the Welsh border in 1257. His son Simon, the first of the family to make a figure in history, followed Edward I. in 1277 against Llywelyn ap Gruffydd, . . . In 1298 he {Simon} was summoned as a baron; and in 1301, as Simon lord of Montagu, he sealed the famous letter of the barons to the pope with his seal of the arms of Montagu, the counterseal showing a griffon.
At some time between 1340 and 1342 he led an expedition of his own against the Isle of Man, winning from the Scots the little kingdom to which he had inherited a claim. His grandfather Simon is said to have married a certain Auffray or "Aufrica," sometimes described as "daughter of Fergus and sister of Orray, king of Man," and sometimes as the grand-daughter and heir of John de Courcy, the conqueror of Ulster, whose wife "Affreca" was sister of King Olaf II. John de Courcy, however, died childless, and in 1287 Simon names his wife as Hawise. The second Aufrica or Affreca claimed the island as heir of Magnus II. (d. 1265), a letter of Edward I. in 1293 citing John of Scotland to answer her appeal to king John's suzerain. By her charter of 1306 the same Aufreca, styling herself "Aufreca of Counnoght, heir of the land of Man," granted the island to Simon, and this grant, rather than the marriage universally asserted by Simon's biographers, was probably the origin of the Montagu xviu. 24 a claim.
REASONS WHY AUFRICIA WAS NOT THE WIFE OF SIMON, NOR NOT THE MOTHER OF SIMON OF THIS PROFILE
http://roots-boots.net/ft/aufricia.html
Aufricia "of Man" and why she didn't marry Simon de Montacute
According to most secondary sources on the Montacute family, Simon married Aufricia "of Man".[1-6] Aufricia supposedly being the daughter of Fergus, King of Man,[1-6] and mother of at least three of Simon's children, William, Simon and John. According to another secondary source, Simon married Aufricia, daughter of Fergus and sister of Orray, King of Man.[11] Unfortunately, an examination of primary records and reliable secondary records of Mediaeval times indicates that there is no evidence at all that Simon married Aufrica and indeed, that she was not even the daughter of Fergus.
The earliest suggestion that Simon married Aufricia was in "Visitations of the North", a now lost manuscript from the late 1400's.[7] The manuscript claimed that Simon Montagu married "Anfrike", daughter of Fergus of Galloway.[7] However, it then goes on to confuse Simon's son, William, who married Elizabeth de Montfort, with a younger son, Simon.[7]
"Complete Peerage", generally a fairly reliable source does mention Aufricia in connection with Simon, but mentions that Simon's wife, Isabel, was still alive in 1290, so effectively ruling out Aufrica as the mother of Simon's known children, who were all born before that date.[8] It then goes on to state in a footnote that "it has been surmised that Simon married Aufrica, but no evidence of such a marriage has been found."[8] According to CP, "In 1304, Aufrica de Connoght, heiress of the Isle of Man, quitclaimed all of her rights to Simon de Montague."[8] Since this often happens as the result of a marriage, it is evident that some have made the obvious, but unsubstantiated assumption that they did marry.
To further confuse the issue, the ancestry of Aufricia, daughter of Fergus of Galloway, as given in "Visitations of the North"[7] and many secondary Montacute sources is correct, however this Aufrica lived some 200 years before Simon de Montacute![9] It is evident that these sources have confused the Aufrica who was alive in Simon's time with her ancestor, Aufricia of Galloway. Aufricia of Galloway was in fact the great-grandmother of Magnus, who was possibly the father of the Aufrica who has been connected with Simon.[12] Another Aufricia, daughter of Aufricia of Galloway and her husband, King Olaf of Man, married John de Courcey,[12,13] and she has been suggested as the grandmother of "Simon's" Aufricia.[13]
The last of the native Kings of Man was Magnus, who died in 1265. After his death, the title was given to the King of Scotland.[12] In 1293, two "heiresses" made claim, Mary, daughter of Magnus' brother, Reginald, and Aufrica, on the 5th June, who'se relation to Magnus is uncertain.[12,14] Aufricia had previously appealed to the King of Scotland.[14] On "Thursday the vigils of the Annunciation of the blessed Mary the Virgin", Aufricia ceded her all her rights as heiress to Sir Simon de Montacute.[14]
Nothing more is heard of Mary's claim, however in 1334, Edward III, king of England, "granted the island to William de Montacute, first Earl of Salisbury, in full possession, so that he became King of Man without having to pay homage to the English Monarch. Montacute's son sold the Island in 1392, including the crown, to William le Scrope, Earl of Wiltshire.[10] So it would seem that Aufricia's claim had enough validity that it convinced the king and that her claim was stronger than Magnus' niece, suggesting she was the daughter of Magnus, King of Man. Naturally, by the time the decision had been made, both Simon and Aufricia were dead, in fact the title and land was granted to Simon's grandson, Simon's heir having also since died.
Between 1293 and 1305 Aufricia started to use the surname "de Connoght", which is suggestive that she had married in that time to a de Connoght (Connacht or Connaught), and not to Simon.[14]
It is clear from the above discussion that there is no substantiated evidence that Sir Simon de Montacute married Aufricia of Man, in fact such evidence as there is indicates that she likely married another. Why she assigned her claim to Man to Simon is a mystery - perhaps because he had helped her in her earlier attempts to gain her inheritance and as a Baron, he might have a better chance of succeding where she failed. It is possible that she did marry Simon and assigned the heirship to him, as was common practice, but if this was the case, her earlier husband had presumably died and the marriage to Simon would have occured after she assigned the rights to him (at the time she was still a de Connoght). If they did in fact marry, Aufricia could not have been the mother of Simon's children, all of whom were born before 1290, at which time his wife, Isobel, was still alive.
References:
[1] "Montague Millennium", {http://www.montaguemillennium.com}, c/o Larry Montague, {mail@montaguemillennium.com}.
[2] Web page of Skiles Montague, {http://www.geocities.com/Baja/1903/}.
[3] Web page of Judy Goad, {http://jogoad.simplenet.com}, {jogoad@vt.edu}.
[4] Web page of Nigel Batty-Smith, {nigel.battysmith@ukonline.co.uk}, {http://web.ukonline.co.uk/nigel.battysmith/}.
[5] Web page of Robert Hole, {rhole@interaktv.com}, {http://interaktv.com/genealogy/hole/index.html}.
[6] Web page of Denise Hunting, {digger63@xoommail.com}, {http://members.xoom.com/digger63/index.html}.
[7] "Visitations of the North - Part III - A Visitation of the North of England c.1480-1500", in "The Publications of the Surtees Society", vol. 144, 1930, pp.49-50. The original source was MS. Ashmole 831 (Bodleain Library, Oxford), ff. 29v-30r, which was a copy by Robert Glover (1544-1588). Posted to soc.genealogy.medieval by Stewart Baldwin, {sbaldw@mindspring.com}, 14 Aug 1999.
[7] "The Complete Peerage" (under "Montagu" and "Salisbury"). Posted to soc.genealogy.medieval by Stewart Baldwin, {sbaldw@mindspring.com}, 10 Oct 1997.
[9] "Chronicle of the kings of Man". Posted to soc.genealogy.medieval by Stewart Baldwin, {sbaldw@mindspring.com}, 14 Aug 1999.
[10] "A History of the Isle of Man", R.H. Kinvig, University Press of Liverpool. From Kay Hain, {KHain10352@aol.com}.
[11] "Dictionary of National Biography". Posted to soc.genealogy.medieval by David Jamieson, {dkj200@aol.com}.
[12] "The Kings of the Isle of Man", a comprehensive article on the native line of the Kings of Man, posted to soc.genealogy.medieval by Stewart Baldwin, {sbaldw@mindspring.com}, 22 Mar 1999. Relevant source: "English Genealogy", Anthony Wagner, 2nd ed, Oxford, 1972, p.79. Based on an earlier compliation by Stewart Baldwin, posted 11 Oct 1997.
[13] "Chronica Regum Manniae", P.A. Muench, pub. Christiana, 1860. Posted to soc.genealogy.medieval by Luke Stevens, {stevens@pss.fit.edu}, 12 Oct 1997.
[14] "The Manx Society", 7 (1861), pp.125-7 & pp.137-8 (in both latin and english). Posted to soc.genealogy.medieval by Stewart Baldwin, {sbaldw@mindspring.com}, 10 Aug 1999.
THERE WERE MULTIPLE WOMEN WITH NAMES LIKE AUFRICA.
Affraic daughter of Fergus of Galloway who died 1161
That Affraic married Óláfr Guðrøðarson (d. 1153)
They had Guðrøðr Óláfsson (d. 1187) King of the Isles, King of Dublin
He had Affreca de Courcy or Affrica Guðrøðardóttir (d. abt 1219) who married John de Courcy
The Wikipedia article on Aufrica de Connoght https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aufrica_de_Connoght states "Although John de Courcy is not known to have had any legitimate children,[24] Aufrica's claim to Mann could indicate that she was a granddaughter of John and his wife, Affrica, daughter of Guðrøðr Óláfsson, King of Dublin and the Isles."
Maybe Fergus de Courcy was John's child and Fergus was the father of Affirca, or maybe not.
AUFRICA DE CONNAUGHT WAS A POSSIBLE HEIRESS OF MAGNUS. SHE WAS NOT THE WIFE OF SIMON
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~medieval/mantable.htm
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~medieval/man.htm#5
Note 6: In 1266, the kingdom of Man was transferred to Alexander III, king of Scotland, and the line of native rulers of Man ended (except for the brief attempt mentioned above in note 5). According to English Genealogy by Anthony Wagner (2nd ed., Oxford, 1972), p. 79, two heiresses attempted to get their rights recognized in 1293. They were Aufrica de Connoght, kinswoman and heiress of king Magnus of Man, who made over her rights to Simon Montagu/Montacute (see the Complete Peerage under Montagu), and Mary, daughter of Reginald, who married John Waldboef. I was able to verify Mary's status from the Roll of Parliament for 33 Edward III (Rolls Series 98), p. 131, but I do not know what primary source gives Aufrica's status as heiress of Magnus, nor do I know the source of the statement of the Dictionary of National Biography (under Simon Montacute) that Aufrica was the daughter of a certain Fergus and "sister of Orray, king of Man" (whoever that was). According to The Complete Peerage, there is no evidence to support the statement of DNB that Aufrica married Simon.
MAGNUS HAD NO CHILDREN
https://www.libraryireland.com/Pedigrees2/isle-of-man-kings.php
. . . Magnus, King of the Isle of Man, having left no issue, . . .
AUFRICA, DAUGHTER OF FERGUS of GALLOWAY, MARRIED OLAV IN A PREVIOUS CENTURY. COULD NOT BE THE MOTHER OF SIMON OF THIS PROFILE
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#AufricaGall...
b) AUFRICA of Galloway . The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that “Olavus filius Godredi Crovan” married “Affricam…filiam Fergus de Galwedia”[1095]. m OLAV “Morsel” King of Man, son of GODFRED “Crovan” King of Man & his wife --- ([1080]-killed 1153).
AFFRICA DAUGHTER OF FERGUS OF GALLOWAY, WAS MARRIED TO OLAUS IN A PREVIOUS CENTURY. COULD NOT BE THE MOTHER OF SIMON OF THIS PROFILE
https://www.jstor.org/stable/27729005
Miss Younge, in her History of Christian Names, states that about the beginning of the twelfth century " Affirica, daughter of Fergus of Galway (?Galloway) married Olaus, the Swarthy Thane of Argyll and Lord of the Isles."
AUFRICA DAUGHTER OF FERGUS OF GALLOWAY, WAS MARRIED TO OLAF IN A PREVIOUS CENTURY. COULD NOT BE THE MOTHER OF SIMON OF THIS PROFILE
https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/ffdIU4CCcro
Lyle R. (Andy) Anderson
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Todd A. Farmerie wrote'
Olaf I, King of Man 1102-1153, a son of Godred Crovan, and the
husband of Aufrica, daughter of Fergus of Galloway & (Elizabeth
Fitzhenry)
Lyle R. (Andy) Anderson
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Spencer: Please be advised this posting may be to long for you.;-)
"Todd A. Farmerie" wrote:
The following items of history are quoted from the 'Illustrated Encyclopedia of the
Isle Of Man' originally compiled by David T. Wedder, F.R.I.C.S, Revised by Frank
Cowin, F.R.C.I.S and F.J. Radcliffe, B.A. and edited by Gordon N. Kniveton. This
edition published 1997 by the Manx Experience, 45 Slieau Dhoo, Tromode Park,
Douglas, Isle of Man IM2 5LG
Quote: page 116-117
OLAF I. King of Man, 1102-1153. Also known as Olaf the Red or Dwarf, he was one of
the three sons of Godred Crovan, but being a minor at the time of succsession, the
King of Ireland appointed a kinsman, Donald, to act as regent. Donald rendered
himself so obnoxious to the Manx people that he was expelled from the Island in the
third year of his reign. In 1114 the Norse made a fruitless attempt to regain the
sovereignty of the Island but the Chiefs agreed to call Olaf, who was now of age,
to the throne of his father (c:1113). <<minor snip on churches>> Olaf secured
peace to his dominions by contracting a marriage with Aufrica, daughter of Fergus,
Prince of Galloway. He was slain at a conference at Ramsey in 1153 by his nephew,
Reginald, who was later captured and slain. Olaf was succeeded by his son Godred
II. Unquote
I DID FIND THIS WHICH EXPLICITLY STATES AUFRICA WAS THE WIFE OF SIMON, BUT IT CONFUSES HER WITH THE FIRST WOMAN OF THAT NAME, WHO WAS THE DAUGHTER OF FERGUS OF GALLOWY
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/40804/40804-8.txt
Notes and Queries, Vol. V, Number 123, March 6, 1852
A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists,
Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.
THE QUEEN OF THE ISLE OF MAN.
(Vol. v., p. 132.)
". . . for amongst the ancient charters in the
British Museum is one marked "V. 73." It is a deed by which "_Aufrica_,
heiress of the land of Man," gives up her right therein "to her noble
and potent husband, Simon de Montagu." This deed is dated at
Bridgewater, on Thursday the Vigil of the Annunciation, 1305; _i.e._
March 24, 1306.
In this charter (V. 73.) she calls herself _Aufrica de Connought_: and
this is rather curious, for in a volume of pedigrees in the British
Museum, in the handwriting of Robert Glover, Somerset Herald (Bib. Harl.
807.), she is said to be the daughter of Fergus, Lord of Galloway
(Galway?), and Queen of Man. _Galway_ it is in another MS. in the same
collection (MSS. Harl. 1074. folio 22.), where she is styled "Aufrica,
Reyne de Man," and daughter of Fergus, Lord of Galway. In both these
MSS. she is said to be the wife of Simon de Montagu, who is styled "Roy
de Man par sa femme."
The above is interesting, in that it is known that Aufrica gave up her right to the Island of Man, but in no other citation does her quitclaim refer to Simon as her husband. Either a great many researchers missed this, or this article is inaccurate. i believe it to be inaccurate as it incorrectly states the daughter of Fergus, Lord of Galway, was the wife of Simon de Montagu. Fergus of Galway died 1161 and his Alfraic married Olaf, not Simon.
What do you think about the last article where Aufrica gave up her right therein "to her noble
and potent husband, Simon de Montagu." Is it inaccurate?
Should the parents of Simon of this profile be changed to William and Bertha, or do you disagree?
