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William Calhoun - Y DNA conflict

Started by Erica Howton on Monday, January 29, 2024
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Debbie Gambrell & anyone else.

William Calhoun Is showing with 2 DNA Markers: R-FGC42483 & E-L117, which is impossible. So there’s a pedigree error in geni.

E-L117 was propagated from the profile of Private User profile manager inactive. His ancestor report:

https://www.geni.com/list/ancestors/6000000082419900045#11

1. James Farrell Calhoun b. March 13, 1962, North Platte, Lincoln County, Nebraska, United States
2. Bruce Edvan Calhoun b. November 27, 1928, North Platte, Lincoln County, Nebraska, United States; d. June 2, 2003, Lincoln, Lancaster County, Nebraska, United States
3. James Manley Calhoun b. August 22, 1892, Omega, Nebraska, United States; d. March 12, 1961, North Platte, Lincoln, Nebraska, United States
4. James Manley Calhoun, Sr b. June 24, 1866, Jo Daviess County, Illinois, United States; d. November 14, 1926, North Platte, Lincoln County, Nebraska, United States
5. Noah Webster Calhoun b. April 18, 1838, Bedford County, Pennsylvania, United States; d. April 13, 1915, Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California, United States
6. James Patterson Calhoun b. September 25, 1805, Bedford County, Pennsylvania, United States; d. May 15, 1889, Carroll County, Illinois, United States
7. Patterson Calhoun b. July 7, 1774, Virginia, US; d. March 31, 1827, Clearville, Bedford, Pennsylvania, US
8. James Calhoun b. 1750, Virginia, United States; d. 1776, Revolutionary War
9. Hugh Calhoun, II b. April 23, 1725, Drummontolen, Donegal, Ireland; d. 1799, Long Cane, Abbeville, South Carolina, USA
10. Hugh Calhoun b. 1692, Crosh House, County Tyrone, Ulster, Ireland; d. 1753, Ardstraw, County Tyrone, Ulster, Ireland
11. Rev. Alexander Calhoun b. January 22, 1662, Crosh House, Ardstraw, County Tyrone, Ulster, Ireland; d. May 4, 1716, Crosh House, Ardstraw, County Tyrone, Ulster, Ireland

Y-DNA: R-FGC42483 Was propogated from the profile of William Crisler Calhoun who is active. His ancestor report:

https://www.geni.com/list/ancestors/6000000031345258020#11

1. William Crisler Calhoun
2. William Clifton Calhoun b. June 27, 1916, Charleston, Kanawha County, West Virginia, United States; d. December 6, 1984, Waycross, Ware County, Georgia, United States
3. William Davitte Calhoun b. June 23, 1890, Rockmart, Polk County, Georgia, United States; d. 1, 1955, Sandersville, Washington County, Georgia, United States
4. William Alexander Calhoun b. April 11, 1866, Abbeville, Abbeville County, South Carolina, United States; d. 1918, Rockmart, Polk County, Georgia, United States
5. William Downs Calhoun b. October 5, 1827, Abbeville, Abbeville County, South Carolina, United States; d. April 30, 1901, Rockmart, Polk County, Georgia, United States
6. Downs Calhoun b. April 20, 1796, Greenwood, Abbeville, Abbeville County, SC, 29620, United States; d. June 29, 1850, Greenwood, Abbeville, Abbeville County, South Carolina, United States
7. William Calhoun b. April 5, 1768, Calhoun Mills, Calhoun, South Carolina, United States; d. December 5, 1821, Abbeville, Abbeville County, South Carolina, United States
8. William Calhoun b. 1726, Ballyloughan, Donegal, Ireland; d. after 1790, Long Cane Creek, Abbeville, South Carolina, USA
9. James Calhoun b. December 23, 1688, Crosh House, Newton Stewart, Tyrone, Ireland, United Kingdom; d. 1741, near, Chestnut Level, Lancaster, Pennsylvania
10. Rev. Alexander Calhoun b. January 22, 1662, Crosh House, Ardstraw, County Tyrone, Ulster, Ireland; d. May 4, 1716, Crosh House, Ardstraw, County Tyrone, Ulster, Ireland
11. William Campbell Colquhoun b. January 25, 1643, Corkagh Donegal, County Dublin, Ireland; d. 1718, Tyrone Ireland, Ardstraw, Strabane, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom
11. Catharine Colquhoun (McCausland) b. January 26, 1643, Tyrone Ireland, Ardstraw, Strabane, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom; d. 1678, Tyrone Ireland, Ardstraw, Strabane, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom

Oh lordy, Erica, that's all too much for me to unravel

Erica, that's the kind of scenario I've talked about - where a person adds their DNA results on FTDNA to a specific Y-DNA project and they put who they believe to be their direct ancestor. They get linked up to that person with the Y-DNA that they got on their results. That works great UNLESS they have a tree error and enter an ancestor error in their submission to the DNA project. Then they connect it all on Geni and we don't know which of the conflicting Y-DNAs is correct. One of those guys could be adopted and not know it or otherwise not be a biological descendant on a line they believe they come from or they could just have a tree error and be mistaken about who the ancestor is. Here on Geni we would have no idea which of those scenarios is the case.

Yes, but I just figured it out.

  1. https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/178419037/person/3... No proven parentage
    1. I'm currently working on a project with CCIS - Clan Colquhoun International Society. Where we are starting a genealogy department for the society so that Colquhoun's of any branch can get help tracing their Colquhoun Lines. ColquhounFamilyHistorian https://www.ancestry.com/profile/00ec46ce-0003-0000-0000-000000000000
    2. Y-DNA Parentage E-M35 - E-FT32806 - Branches off of James Patrick Calhoun Sr's haplogroup - E-FT32806. Not off the line of Hugh Calhoun II son of Hugh Calhoun Sr born 1692

By looking at the two ancestor reports on geni, I noticed the geographic discrepancy here:

8. James Calhoun b. 1750, Virginia, United States; d. 1776, Revolutionary War
9. Hugh Calhoun, II b. April 23, 1725, Drummontolen, Donegal, Ireland; d. 1799, Long Cane, Abbeville, South Carolina, USA

So either Hugh ll lived in Virginia, James was actually born in SC, or there were 2 different James (most likely.)

37 out of 40 matching MyHeritage trees give the same pedigree, there are two with no parents listed.

Then I looked on ancestry until I found a big red sign:

No proven parentage

And that’s the tree with the Y DNA analysis.

I’m detaching James Calhoun as son of Hugh Calhoun, II & Jennett Calhoun

I also think it would be cool for you (Debbie) to reach out to “https://www.ancestry.com/profile/00ec46ce-0003-0000-0000-000000000000” when we have questions.

And now we’re fixed.

I’ve been able to resolve every Y DNA conflict case I’ve seen.

Probably not your lines but a cool site and and interesting project.

https://mosesmccarter.com/

Clans included in this project

Colquhoun, McCarter, Buchanan, Graham, MacFarlane, McEwan and Hunter

Awesome! Great job!

But, if you can resolve Y DNA conflicts, here's the one on my son's paternal line. I already messaged the conflicting Ingram guy years back and never got any response. This is my son's dad's profile:

Private

I never could get it resolved, so posted this note in his profile:

Conflict in Y-DNA is due to David Ingram's results posted on Geni. This Leonard Ingram's son has been Y-DNA tested, as have one of 1st cousins and one of his 2nd cousins and they're all I-M253

I’ll spin off discussion on that one.

Meanwhile, I'm still mirroring through my tree on the MacAuselans and Coloqhouns in an effort to make sure everything matches up and is as well-documented as possible. Lots of distractions today and I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow, so I may not get as much done as quickly as I'd like until later in the week.

With regard to SC vs. Virginia, I read on one documents I was looking at that one moved to SC, wasn't born there. I'll have to relocate that and share what it said.

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