Why are strangers allowed to merge profiles on my family tree?

Started by Private User on Monday, March 25, 2024
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I don't like having merges performed on my profiles unless and until I have a chance to review them. Why am I only told about them afterward?

(The problem is that people generally have very bad data or confuse profiles with similar names.)

Thanks.

Jeff

Well you can always go back and correct the info on your relatives - Always be the one to "resolve conflicts" - People that merge profiles often don't do that.

Thanks, Richard. I received no notice of this merge -- guy just up and did it, and Geni allowed it. I'm really quite angry.

Thanks, Job. Now I have. :^)

It makes sense and I'm not against improvements to the tree -- with my permission!

I have requested to the guy to un-merge it; let's see how he responds.

If the mess cannot be cleaned up I suppose I can delete the profile and re-add them?

A user cannot unmerge a profile, that needs curator assistance., see https://www.geni.com/discussions/272643

For public profiles no permission is needed for merging. For profiles within your family group a user in the family group has to approve merges.

You should never delete profiles with other managers without first getting approval of all those managers. Otherwise it can be reported as vandalism and get your edit right restricted (there is no problem with deleting profiles where you are the only manager.)

If you are afraid a public profile will be modified with wrong information, you
can request to have it made a MP profile with fields and/or relations locked. See first post in https://www.geni.com/discussions/272715.

Yes I also find it annoying. I once had some one merge my great great grandmother with one of her nieces. I posted a notice of the error and someone un-merged the two, but then the same person revered them. Thankfully had this distant cousin involved, and he took care of it. But that has been my only issue.
I do of course make sure that I'm following all the profiles that I care about, and get a report when any of those profiles altered - A number of time I've went back and changed things back, but a lot of the time I leave things alone when the branch of the family is only tangential to my family line. And I always post sources when I've altered other peoples work.
But really if you don't want distant relatives altering your family tree you have to set your family up in a spreadsheet on your own computer.

So, the person who made this mess *is* a Curator: Aviad Ben Izhak

And he refuses to fix it.

Vandalism? On my own information?

I'll delete anything I like since "the other manager" is the vandal here!

And this-all is exactly why I am so angry: I am a busy man and I have now logged into this site four times to deal with this intruder.

I couldn't see any problem.
I do what curators have to do.
In Geni, you merge trees all the time

A very important attribute of Geni (and what makes it great) is MERGING!
If you want to keep your tree private and disconnected use another tool like Myhritage

No one has merged a tree of mine until you came along. You offer every hallmark of a con artist: I don't know you, you acted without permission or notice, and I have encountered others on this website -- long ago now -- who were simply collecting other people's ancestors for whatever their own opaque purposes were. That is why I am keen to 'keep it clean' for now.

I trust the information that I have recorded here, largely to preserve it until I retire and can look into the topic more deeply. (As well, the longer I wait, the more resources come online.)

The generations under discussion are troublesome for merges: many repeated names (Old Testament names were in vogue), many name changes after the journey to the New World, spotty records-keeping throughout the era, plus the usual nonsense of bad recall, bad translations, assimilation, blood feuds, old secrets, and, of course, dying young.

FInally, as to Geni, it is my understanding that this place is on its last legs, kept breathing only as a feeder stream to MyHeritage. I offer in evidence that when my uncle died, I was obliged to ask someone to mark him deceased because the editor controls had been locked down. I'm kinda astonished to see so much posting going on.

Dear Jeffrey I have to repeat what Ori already pointed out. Geni is all about MERGING, if you are not comfortable with MERGING you should not be on Geni. MyHeritage suits you better. By the way I trust Geni much more than MyHeritage due to Genis peer review. I have found errors very common on MyHeritage, much less common on Geni. Unfortunately mistakes occur in both and if they do Geni provides ample possibilities to resolve them TOGETHER, thats what Geni is about in my humble opinion.

It is allowed on Geni to keep Private all profiles born less than 150 years ago.
Private User
- are you doing that?
Or did you make them public and now are upset because people do exactly what they are allowed - or more accurately, encoraged - to do on Geni?

Private User I am not sophisticated in how this site works. I signed up long ago and everything has been quite peaceful until now. I don't even know how to lock things down, though perhaps I need to learn, given that the milieu is no longer so peaceful.

Private User - I joined in Fall 2007, and yes, Geni has changed and changed and changed again.
And no, I do not like all the changes. But I do try desperately to keep up with the changing rules by skimming all Public Discussions for mentions. And in turn try to share the info.

Curators will jump in and help if you let them know of actual incorrect merges that have been made.
There are only limited situations when it is acceptable for a Curator to merge a Private Profile without permission from one of its managers.
See
https://help.geni.com/hc/en-us/articles/360050649553-Can-curators-e...
However, if they could have merged or edited it if they were not a Curator, then they still can.

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