Benjamin Carr, of London

Not a known child of William Carr, Esq., of Ford Castle

Family

Benjamin Carr married in London, England, September 12, 1613, Martha Hardington.

Children :

• Richard, January 5, 1621 ;
• Andrew, De cember 5, 1622, also came to New England.

New England Families, Genealogical and Memorial, A Record of the Achievements of Her People in the Making of Commonwealths and the Founding of a Nation Page 488

Benjamin Carr died in 1653 leaving his four sons to live with relatives. The two older boys, Robert and Caleb were sent to Plymouth Colony on the 'Elizabeth Ann' on May 9, 1635, to live with their Uncle William and Aunt Susan (Rothchild) Carr. William and Susan and their small baby had sailed to America in 1621 on the 'Fortune' which was commanded by Capt. Roger Williams. They stayed in Plymouth Colony until June 1622, then with only an Indian as companion and a compass for a guide, they set out on foot in a SW direction through a trackless wilderness. After a journey of 48 days, they came to what is now Mount Hope Bay, where they built their cabin about where Bristol, Rhode Island is located now. (Quoted from Watson's 'The House of Carr',1926) http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ro gerd2527&id=I8289&style=TABLE

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Benjamin Carr

• born 18 August 1592 London, Middlesex, England
• christened 18 August 1592 London, Middlesex, England
• died 4 June 1672 London, Middlesex, England
• buried London, Middlesex, England
• F. William Carr, 10th Baron of Ferniehurst Castle 1542 - 1589 [NO PROOF]
• M. Mary Ann Clifford abt 1573 - abt 1573

Alternatively, his parents were:

• Sir William Carr (Kerr) born 16 May 1542 London, Middlesex, England died London, Middlesex, England. Son of Thomas Kerr and Elizabeth Heron [NO PROOF]
• Ursula Brandling born about 1554 London, Middlesex, England married about 1590 London, Middlesex, England. Daughter of Henry Brandling and Elizabeth Bructon.

family

married 2 September 1613 London, Middlesex, England to Martha Hardington (born 1593 London, Middlesex, England). Her parents are not known.

children:

1. Richard Carr born 5 January 1621 London, Middlesex, England died 17 May 1689 Salisbury, Massachus
2. Andrew Carr born 5 December 1622 London, Middlesex, England

Disputed Origins

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Carr-38

Edson Carr, Carr Family Records begins with (p. 9) four brothers Benjamin, William, George, James, and their children.[1] Page 9

1. Benjamin b. London 18 Aug 1592; m. Martha Hadington, London 2 Sep 1613. died in London. His children:

1. Richard Carr b. 5 Jan 1621
2. Andrew Carr b. 5 Dec 1622

2. His brother William b. London 17 Jun 1597; m. Susan Rothchild London 16 May 1619; to Plymouth 1621 "Fortune; walked to Bristol; died 4 Jun 1672 had son

3. George b. 12 Mar 1620 George; Went to America in 1620 on the Mayflower

4. His brother James; ran away to sea.

The above claims to be from family Bible printed London 1585 belonging to Susan, wife of William, son of William, "My maiden name was Susan Rothchild. I was born in Devonshire, Eng., in the year of our Lord, A.D. 1598, April 30. I married William Carr, of London, May 16, 1619. He was born in 1597, June 17. Husband says he had a brother George Carr, who went to America in 1620. My husband has a brother Benjamin Carr, he was born Aug. 18, 1592. I am acquainted with him and his family. He has four sons, Robert Carr, born Oct 4, 1614; Caleb Carr, born Dec. 9, 1916; Richard Carr, born Jan. 5, 1621; Andrew Carr, born Dec. 5, 1622. My son George Carr was born March 12, 1620. My husband had a brother James Carr. He ran away to sea when a boy and we never heard from him."

Rootsweb has the following allegedly quoted from Watson's 'The House of Carr',1926. "Benjamin Carr died in 1653 [probably 1635] leaving his four sons to live with relatives. The two older boys, Robert and Caleb were sent to Plymouth Colony on the 'Elizabeth Ann' on May 9, 1635, to live with their Uncle William and Aunt Susan (Rothchild) Carr. William and Susan and their small baby had sailed to America in 1621 on the 'Fortune' which was commanded by Capt. Roger Williams. They stayed in Plymouth Colony until June 1622, then with only an Indian as companion and a compass for a guide, they set out on foot in a SW direction through a trackless wilderness. After a journey of 48 days, they came to what is now Mount Hope Bay, where they built their cabin about where Bristol, Rhode Island is located now." Note: This "quote" has not been found in the House of Carr, although except for the 1653/1635 error it basically follows the story from many of the early genealogies.

Proof ?

No records have been found to verify any of these dates. Of Susan Rothchild's alleged "bible" and migration story Anderson says: "The highly amusing account of the migration of the Carr family to New England is one of the more outlandish of its genre, and was probably concocted sometime in the nineteenth century.[2] Anderson's Great Migration series assigns no origins or parents for Robert and Caleb. Alleged parents William Carr Esq. and Ursula Brandling have been removed. Alleged children Robert Carr and Caleb Carr immigrants to New England have been removed. The unverified, perhaps fictitious, children Richard and Andrew have been left attached.

References

• Carr, Edson I. The Carr Family Records Embacing [sic] the record of the first families who settled in America and their descendants, with many branches who came to this country at a later date (Rockton, Ill., Herald printing house, 1894) link to book at Archive
• Anderson, Robert CharlesThe Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume II, C-F, "Robert Carr" P 24-27) Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001.
• Alt Birth: BEF 18 AUG 1592, London, London, ENGLAND (christening)
• Alt Death: 1635, London, London, ENGLAND
  • Reference: http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Benjamin_Carr_%281%29 May 5 2017, 20:01:27 UTC
• http://www.mathematical.com/hardingtonmartha1593.htm
  • LDS, ancestry.com
• New England Families, Genealogical and Memorial, A Record of the Achievements of Her People in the Making of Commonwealths and the Founding of a Nation Page 488
• Adams, Arthur. Memoirs of the Deceased Members of the NEHGS, The New England Historical & Genealogical Register (New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Mass., 1954) Vol. 108, Page 66