Elizabeth de Bruce (de Brus) (c.1286 - d.) MP

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Birthplace: Carrick, Argyllshire, Scotland
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About Elizabeth de Bruce (de Brus)

<< not proven but highly likely >>

Please don't change the parents from Robert de Bruce 6th Lord Annandale and Marjory of Carrick, Countess of Carrick !

From "ORCADIAN FAMILIES" :

DISCHINGTON

William de Dischington received from King Robert Bruce the lands of Balglassie, Aberlemno, and others in Forfar. Prior to the year 1330 he married Elisabeth, the king’s younger sister. Of his two sons, John, the younger, obtained the lands of Langhermiston. William, the elder, was, by David II, his cousin, knighted and appointed steward of the palace. In 1368 he received a royal charter of a third part of the barony of Ardross, Fife, in succession to his relative John Burnard, and also the same year a charter of the lands of Kynbrachmont. A skilful architect, he constructed the castle of Ardross, and the church of St.Monans, which latter was erected at the cost of David II to denote his gratitude to God for being preserved from a storm which overtook him and his queen, Margaret de Logie, when crossing the firth to visit William de Dischington at Ardross, The Dischingtons continued in Fife till 1673. In 1549 Margaret Dischington is noted as wife of Edward Sinclair of Strom, and as being under the special protection of Bishop Reid. In 1583 John Dischington, a younger son of the Laird of Ardross, passed to Orkney, and was acknowledged as a relative by Earl Patrick Stewart, who appointed him Sheriff and Commissary of Orkney and Shetland, Several of his descendants figure as officers in the royal navy and as ministers of the church.

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From Michell Wayne :

In my endeavour to trace the DISHINGTON family of Scotland I have come across the following people:

SIR WILLIAM DISHINGTON (knight) married to ELIZABETH. They lived during the reign of KING ROBERT I (ROBERT THE BRUCE). Their sons were: JOHN DISHINGTON (lived during reign of KING ROBERT I) SIR WILLIAM DISHINGTON (lived during reign of KING DAVID II) His son was THOMAS DISHINGTON (mentioned in 1402)

It appears that the DISHINGTON family was related to the kings of Scotland:

1. The following books claim that ELIZABETH (the wife of WILLIAM DISHINGTON the elder) was a sister of KING ROBERT I the BRUCE: a.) "The Peerage of Scotland" by George Crawfurd (Edinburgh / 1716); b.) "The Peerage of Scotland" by ROBERT Douglas (Edinburgh / 1764); c.) "Angus or Forfarshire" by Alexander Warden (Dundee / 1881); d.) "The East Neuk of Fife" by Walter Wood (Edinburgh / 1887); e.) "Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae" by H. Scott (Edinburgh / Vol 7. 1915); f.) "ROBERT BRUCE KING of Scots" by Agnes MacKenzie (Edinburgh /1956).

2. ROBERT I (the BRUCE), KING of Scotland, called JOHN DISHINGTON: "nepoti suo" meaning "his (the KING's) nephew".

3. The same KING called WILLIAM DISHINGTON (the elder) "consanguineo nostro" (our blood relative or cousin).

4. DAVID II (KING of Scotland) called SIR WILLIAM DISHINGTON (the younger): "consanguineo nostro". Dr. Athol Murray, of the Scottish Record Office, wrote me: ""DAVID II's charter to SIR WILLIAM DISHINGTON ... describes him as 'consanguineo nostro', but this can mean 'kinsman' rather than an actual first cousin. ... If we interpret DAVID II's reference ... narrowly, this would imply that SIR WILLIAM's father or grandfather had married a sister of ROBERT I."

5. ROBERT III (KING of Scotland) called THOMAS DISHINGTON: "dilecto nepoti nostro" (our dear nephew). According to Dr. Athol Murray: "Nepos can mean grandson as well as nephew, though I think in this case the latter is more likely.". According to the English "Dictionary of National Biography", KING ROBERT II of Scotland had a dozen or more illegitimate children - many of whose names are not known. I believe it possible that the mother of THOMAS DISHINGTON was in fact one of the illegitimate children of KING ROBERT III.

I have undertaken the task of reading through all of the documents (available to me in printed books) of the above mentioned KINGs to try to determine when the used the term "nephew" and "kinsman". Other than WILLIAM WYSEMAN (whose relation to the royal familes is unknown to me) and the DISHINGTON family, I have determined that the term "kinsman" was only used in connection with an actual kinsman of the KING or a person married to a kinsman of the KING. Also the term "nephew" was only used when the person in question was truely a nephew of the KING.

I have not been able to find ELIZABETH (the wife of WILLIAM DISHINGTON the elder) mentioned in any documents.

I believe that the DISHINGTONs were in fact directly related to the royal family of BRUCE and Stewart in Scotland. But I do not have any proof.

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It doesn't seem generally accepted that Elizabeth is sister to Robert I, King of Scots. According to thread http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GENUKI/1996-08/0841415131 this has been suggested a number of times (Book of Bruce missing from list in thread, but it uses book 2) as a reference). It seems the proof is still missing for the connection.

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Elizabeth de Bruce's Timeline

1286
1286
Carrick, Argyllshire, Scotland
1309
1309
Age 23
Of,Carrick,Argyll,Scotland
1992
November 3, 1992
Age 706
November 18, 1992
Age 706
November 20, 1992
Age 706
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