Sir John Baker, Kt., MP

Date of birth has also been (erroneously?) reported to be 1548.

Date of death has also been (erroneously?) reported to be 1560.

Family and Education b. by 1531, 2nd s. of John Baker I by 2nd w., and bro. of Richard. educ. I. Temple, adm. 29 Jan. 1553. m. (1) Catherine, da. of Sir Reginald Scott of Scot’s Hall, nr. Ashford, Kent, 2s. inc. Richard†; (2) Martha, wid.2

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Groom of the chamber by 1552.3

Biography John Baker was given a special admission to the Inner Temple, his father’s inn, in 1553, but he is not again mentioned in the records of the inn. His return for Horsham to the Parliament of April 1554 may be attributed to his father’s friendship with the 3rd Duke of Norfolk, who owned the borough, and although Norfolk was dead before the next election the elder Baker’s influence in Sussex and at court was doubtless sufficient to secure his son’s reelection at Bramber. In these two Parliaments the father sat as knight of the shire for Kent and the elder son Richard successively for Horsham and Lancaster, a family achievement not often matched during this period. The ‘Mr. Baker’ to whom the bill punishing seditious rumours was committed on 19 Nov. 1554 is more likely to have been the father, with his long experience of the Commons, than either of the sons. Not surprisingly, none of the three was to be numbered among the Members who withdrew from this Parliament before its dissolution and who were prosecuted for their offence. It is possible that Baker was re-elected for Bramber to the Parliament of 1555, the name Thomas Baker which appears on the indenture being perhaps a misnomer.4

Sir John Baker was at pains to provide for his second son. When in November 1552 he bought three manors in Kent from Sir Edward North and others he remaindered them to John Baker; he made further provision by his will of October 1555, and in his testament of January 1558 he added to bequests of £200 and his household goods in London an exhortation to his heir ‘to be aiding and loving to thy natural brother John Baker’. Such solicitude prompts the speculation whether the younger Baker may not have been a source of disappointment or anxiety. For the son of so industrious and successful a father he certainly appears a nonentity, making no mark either in London, where he lived, or at court or in politics, and memorable only for having fathered, in Sir Richard Baker, the author of the well-known Chronicle. That he was, at least, no spendthrift appears from the provision in his will that Richard should pay the younger son Thomas £3,000 with which to buy land. Among other provisions of the will, made on 14 Oct. 1604 and proved on 14 Apr. 1606, were that Martha Baker was to have all the plate and jewels which she had received ‘as executrix to her late husband’ and all movables at Frittenden, Kent, and that Thomas Baker should receive the reversion of lands at Bodiam, Sussex.5

Ref Volumes: 1509-1558 Author: R. J.W. Swales Notes 1. C219/23/131 gives christian name only; full name supplied from Huntington Lib. Hastings mss Parl. pprs. 2. Date of birth estimated from first reference. Vis. Kent (Harl. Soc. xlii), 63; PCC 25 Stafford. 3. Stowe 571, f. 31; LC2/4/7, f. 20v. 4. CJ, i. 37. 5. CPR, 1550-3, pp. 239-40; PCC 24 Welles, 25 Stafford

• 'John Baker1
• 'M, b. circa 1539
• Father Sir John Baker, Chancellor of the Exchequer, Speaker of the House of Commons b. c 1506, d. 1558
• Mother Elizabeth Dineley1
• ' John Baker was born circa 1539 at of Sissinghurst, Kent, England.1 He married Catherine Scott, daughter of Sir Reginald Scott and Emelyn Kempe, circa 1562.1,2
• 'Family Catherine Scott b. c 1540
• Citations
• 1.[S2301] Unknown author, Stemmata Robertson & Durdin., p. 223.
• 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 335.
• http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1966.htm#...
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• 'John Baker1
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• Last Edited=1 Mar 2007
• ' John Baker is the son of Sir John Baker and Elizabeth Dineley.1 He married Catherine Scott, daughter of Sir Reginald Scott.1
• ' He lived at London, England.1
• 'Child of John Baker and Catherine Scott
• 1.Sir Richard Baker1
• Citations
• 1.[S2172] Barry Watson, "re: BAker Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 28 February 2007. Hereinafter cited as "re: Baker Family."
• http://www.thepeerage.com/p21977.htm#i219764
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Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, Volume 03

• Baker, Richard (1568-1645) by Sidney Lee

BAKER, Sir RICHARD (1568-1645), religious and historical writer, was born about 1568. His father, 'John Baker, is stated to have been the elder son of Sir John Baker [q.v.], of Sisinghurst, near Cranbrook, Kent, who was chancellor of the exchequer and privy councillor in the reign of Henry VIII. His mother was Catherine, daughter of Reginald Scott, of Scots Hall, near Ashford, Kent. His father was disinherited, according to recent accounts, in favour of his younger brother', Richard, the head of the family in the historian's youth. This Richard Baker entertained Queen Elizabeth at the family seat of Sisinghurst in 1573, was soon afterwards knighted, acted as high sheriff of Kent in 1562 and 1582, and died on 27 May 1594. Care must be taken to distinguish between the uncle and nephew. Henry, a grandson of the elder Sir Richard Baker, and second cousin of the younger, was created a baronet in 1611.

[Wood's Athenae Oxon. (Bliss), iii. 148-51 ; Ring. Brit. (Kippis); Granger's Biog. Hist. (1775), ii. 321 ; Baker's Meditations on the Psalms, ed. Grosart, pp. i-xl; Notes and Queries, 1st ser. ii. 67, 244, 507, vi. 318 (where an account of a legend connected with the elder Sir Richard Baker, of no historical importance, is fully discussed), 2nd ser. ii. 509, iii. 76. 3rd ser. ii. 275, 475.]

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'John Baker, M.P. and lawyer, son of Sir John Baker and Elizabeth Baker [Barrett] [Dyneley]

• Date--- Type--- Information--- Source 'c 1531--- Born--- --- Oxford Dictionary of National Biography

'c 1565--- Married--- Catherine Scott--- Estimated date

c 1568--- Birth of a son--- Richard at Sissinghurst Castle in the Parish of Cranbrook, Kent--- Oxford Dictionary of National Biography

1577--- Birth of a son--- Thomas--- Florian Doyle's records

'November 1603--- Married--- Martha Webbe at Hornchurch in the County of Essex--- Florian Doyle's records

'c 1605--- Died--- --- Oxford Dictionary of National Biography

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