Mary Doud (Bartlett) - Who are the parents of Mary Bartlett who married John Doud/Dowd in 1687, in Guilford, CT?

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Private User
3/3/2016 at 6:12 PM

This profile has 2 sets of parents attached.
According to the marriage record of Mary Bartlett & John Dowd, she was of Killingsworth and he was of Guilford.

The Mary Bartlett of Guilford, daughter of George Bartlett & Mary Cruttenden, b. 1655, married Nathaniel Stone and had children from the oldest, Joseph, b. 1674 and the youngest, Timothy age 14 in 1709, the year Nathaniel Stone died. Mary is mentioned as an administrator of Nathaniel Stone's estate and the children listed.

Thus, I believe this Mary is not the daughter of George of Guilford.

Research is needed for the other set of parents listed, John Bartlett & Sarah Aldridge.

3/3/2016 at 10:39 PM

Thanks, Private User - that was a really bad, no good merge.

It's taken a little time to separate families, re home the kids to correct parents, merge duplicates, and clean up bad dates. Almost done for the Nathaniel Stone & Mary Martin

I have no knowledge of "the other" Mary Bartlett & leave for future researchers.

Private User
3/4/2016 at 10:42 AM

Thank you Erica Howton

11/20/2021 at 5:47 AM

There is a major genealogical controversy involving the identity of the husband of Mary Bartlett, which needs to be resolved. For the record, Connecticut, U.S., Town Marriage Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection), indicates that George & Mary (Cruttenden) Bartlett of Guilford, Connecticut had a daughter Mary, born 01 Feb 1654/55. There seems to be major confusion as to the identity of her husband, however, generated by two marriage records which appear to be in conflict. The following narrative examines the nature of the problem in detail. Per Connecticut, U.S., Town Marriage Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection), Mary Bartlett married Nathaniel Stone in Guilford on 10 Jul 1673. This is what is shown in the work by Dr. Alvin Talcott, Compiler, & Jacquelyn L. Ricker, Editor, Families of Early Guilford, Connecticut, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1984, pg 25 - the definitive work on early Guilford, Connecticut families. Talcott’s information is consistent with the info in the Barbour Collection data. Also see William L. Stone II, The Family of John Stone one of the First Settlers of Guilford, Conn., Joel Munsell's sons, Albany, 1888, pg 3.

The Barbour Collection also shows the marriage of a Mary Bartlett of Kenilsworth (sic) (i.e. Killingworth?) to John Doude of Guilford in Jan 1687, however. Talcott indicates on pg 287, that John Dowd married 1) Sarah Fallman, and 2) Mary Bartlett of Killingworth.

These two conflicting marriage records have generated an enormous amount of confusion. For instance - Mary Bartlett born to George & Mary (Cruttenden) Bartlett in 1655 - has 2 Find-A-Grave memorials - # 72398001 under Mary (Bartlett) Stone, and # 163368854 under Mary (Bartlett) Dowd. One is obviously incorrect, but which one? And the question arises as to whether we are in actual fact dealing with two separate Mary Bartletts here who were contemporaries - one from Guilford and one from Killingworth.

It is fitting to add that the Barbour Collection also shows Joseph Stone born to Nathaniel & Mary in Guilford on 17 Jun 1674, an event which fits in perfectly with the marriage of Nathaniel & Mary (Bartlett) Stone in July of 1673. This fact would be difficult to explain away if Mary Bartlett – daughter of George & Mary (Cruttenden) Bartlett – did not marry till 1687 at age 32, to John Dowd/Doud/Doude. It is likewise difficult to believe that Mary Bartlett - daughter of George & Mary (Cruttenden) Bartlett – did not marry till age 32, given the scarcity of females of marriageable age in the early years of the settlement.

Now – the hypothetical scenario arises that Mary Bartlett - daughter of George & Mary (Cruttenden) Bartlett – married (1) Nathaniel Stone in 1673 who died in 1686 or before – then married (2) John Dowd/Doud/Doude in 1687. Unfortunately, this does not work, as Nathaniel Stone lived till 1709 and he and Mary had children after 1687.

Personally, I’m inclined to believe that Mary Bartlett - daughter of George & Mary (Cruttenden) Bartlett – was the wife of Nathaniel Stone - not John Dowd/Doud/Doude - for these reasons:

1) The 1673 marriage record in the Barbour Collection for Nathaniel Stone and Mary Bartlett– when the daughter of George & Mary (Cruttenden) Bartlett was the only Mary Bartlett in Guilford.

2) The 1687 marriage record in the Barbour Collection for John Dowd/Doud/Doude and Mary Bartlett indicates that she was from – presumably - Killingworth – not Guilford (though admittedly, we do not know who raised the orphaned Bartlett children after George & Mary both died untimely deaths in 1669.

3) Per the work by Patricia E. Kane, Furniture of the New Haven Colony: The Seventeenth-Century Style, The New Haven Colony Historical Society, 1973, pg 85, Nathaniel Stone was a joiner by trade. Connecting the dots, Nathaniel Stone (1648-1709) who married Mary Bartlett (1655-1724), was presumably apprenticed to the master craftsman who posthumously become his father-in-law, as George Bartlett was the only known joiner in Guilford in the early years of the settlement.

4) If Mary Bartlett, daughter of George & Mary (Cruttenden) Bartlett married John Dowd in 1687, it begs the question as to who Nathaniel Stone married in 1673.

5) My thought is that since it would appear from the Barbour collection that the Mary Bartlett who married John Dowd/Doud/Doude was not from Guilford, she was probably not George & Mary (Cruttenden) Bartlett’s daughter Mary, but the question then becomes, whose daughter was she? (Though remote, possibility exists that the clerk who recorded the 1687 marriage of John & Mary Dowd, may have confused another surname with Bartlett).

Nevertheless – the above having been said – there is definitely a mystery here which needs to be investigated and explained. If anyone has information in clarification of the above uncertainties, please offer a detailed response with a thorough explanation. Thank you.

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