Samuel (or William or John) Shattuck - No record of a first name exists. Sam, Wm & John are all guesses.

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First Last
11/6/2016 at 3:41 AM

Would be interested in what records/data are being used as source of his first name. Remember IGI, AF, PRFs, and other family trees found on WikiTrees, Ancestry, and My Heritage are not historical records or documents. Thanks. Shirley SSBOSCO@AOL.COM

11/8/2016 at 6:13 AM

Not a strong set of sources, which is why I have 3 possible names. My original source was documentation passed down to me (but it didn't list a source). Philip Shaddock of http://shaddock.ca would better be able to point you to sources. Lemuel Shattuck's book would be one.

First Last
11/9/2016 at 4:57 AM

Hi James:

Thanks for your note. Can you help me fill in anything that's missing from the post below? I'm looking for people who might have some information that I haven't been able to find yet.

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.shattuck/456/mb.ashx

Thanks.

Shirley

11/16/2016 at 7:40 AM

Shirley,

All the information I have is here: http://family.beacondeacon.com/bm.htm Hopefully that information can help. There are still questions that remain, but that's the most complete I have been able to get in regards to my Shattuck ancestry. I list sources there.

-James "Jamie" Johnson

11/16/2016 at 12:12 PM

First Last all attempts at a given name for "widow Shadduck's" husband are speculative. They are listed in the geni profile to reduce the number of new lines created.

11/16/2016 at 12:54 PM

First Last I've now also -

- peeled your Hopkins off the Shattuck / Gardner's ... Again
- reviewed your http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.shattuck/456/mb.ashx posting

I am in agreement with your notes. We had an extensive discussion a few months ago & geni & Wikitree should be reflecting similar trees (can't speak for Wikitree).

This Shattuck line "daughtered out," it seems. Our friend Samuel Sewell's diaries as the proof.

11/16/2016 at 1:02 PM

I think I can add that I had read a strong argument against the Sibley connection for "widow Shattuck". Hopefully it's in her profile. If not & you need it, let me know.

First Last
11/16/2016 at 1:23 PM

Thanks Erica. But now that he appears as

Unknown "Samuel" Shattuck

it might appear to some people that his first name was unknown and that he went by a middle name of "Samuel" which is misleading in two ways:
1. Commoners didn't have middle names back then.
2. We don't know his name.

Why can we not just call him Unknown Shattuck since no one anywhere knows what his first name was or when or where he was born or when or where he died?

There is nothing misleading about someone named Unknown if his name is unknown.

James -- thanks for the addition of the "critical eye" on your page. Would welcome any comments or suggestions to make it clearer to understand.

Thanks to you both --
Shirley

First Last
11/16/2016 at 2:09 PM

Erica: Yes please if you run across the anti-Sibley note again that you mentioned.
Shirley

11/16/2016 at 5:29 PM

Let me experiment with the "Samuel" for a bit. My need to not be constantly chasing Fake Pedigrees that send members down an erroneous path may trump any misunderstanding of what "Samuel" might mean. We've had success with this method in the medieval tree.

Back to rounding up Sibley's who found themselves attached to the Henry Vlll tree. Don't ask.

11/17/2016 at 7:44 AM

Thanks again Erica! Keep us posted on Samuel.

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