Sarah Stebbins (Whiting) - Parent Sources for Sarah Whiting

Started by Kevin Casey on Friday, September 22, 2017
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9/22/2017 at 10:18 AM

Does anyone have any proof/primary resources to substantiate who Rowland Stebbins' or Sarah Whiting's (his wife) parents were? I'm only seeing other people's Internet trees, though perhaps I'm missing something....

Thanks,
Kevin

9/22/2017 at 1:21 PM

No, no evidence has been published recording the identify of her parents. See:

John Insley Coddington, "The Stebbing Family of Co. Essex, Enland and Rowland, Martin, Edward and Editha Stebbing or Stebbins of New England" in The American Genealogist (1955) Volume 31 pages 194 and 196.

The parish registers and other records were examined and no baptism record for Sarah Whiting could be found. However, they did find they marriage record so we do know her maiden name.

"Miss Thacker reported the following lacunnae in the Black Notley Registers: in the Marriages, the bottom portion of a page cut out after August 1606; marriages began again in November 1606 at top of next page. Owing to this cut there is also a gap ( on the other side of the page) between August 1608 and March 1608/9. Another cut occurs at top of page after Spetember 1632, and entries begin again in May 1633. This cut causes a gap on the other side of the page from February 1635/6 to April 1636. In the Burials, a page covering parts of 1602-3 was defaced and unreadable; there was a part of 1604 that was unreadable and also a part of 1625.
Miss Thacker was further commissioned to search the Feet of Fines in the Public Record Office in London, to try to find a record of disposal of property in Essex by Rowland, Martin or Edward Stebbing at the time of their emigration to New England. Nothing was found. Moreover, no will was found belonging to Thomas Stebbing of Bocking (the father of Rowland and Martin) or to William Stebbing of Black Notley and Braintree (the presumed father of Edward), and there was no record of the Stebbing family in the Lay Subsidies of Hinkford Hundred, Essex, in the reigns of Elizabeth I, James I or Charles I.
Bearing in mind the limitations of our genealogical data, we may venture to set forth tese brief summaries concerning Rowland, Martin, Edward and Editha Stebbing:
1. ROWLAND STEBBING, baptised at Bocking, co. Essex, 5 Nov 1592, son of Thomas Stebbing of Bocking and older brother Martin Stebbing. He married at Bocking, 30 Nov. 1618, Sarah Whiting, whose baptism does not appear in the existing Register of Bocking. Their five known children were presumably born and baptised at Bocking, but none of the baptisms and only one burial of a child of a Rowland Stebbins appear in the fragmentary Registers of that parish.

Rowland Stebbing and his family sailed from Ipswich, co. Suffolk, on the Francis, "last of April" 1634. The shipping list gives Rowland's are as 40, wife Sarah, 43, and children Thomas, 14, Sarah, 11, John, 8, and Elizabeth, 6. On arrival in New England, they settled first in Roxbury. Rowland Stebbing was one of the early settlers of Springfield, MA., moved there about 1639, and received land in the second division of that town, 24 Dec. 1640. Sarah (Whiting) Stebbing was buried at Springfield 4 Oct. 1649. Rowland had a seat in the meeting-house at Springfield in 1663, and some time after Feb. 1664/5 he moved again, to live with his son John at Northampton, MA., where he died 14 Dec. 1671, leaving a will dated 1 March 1669/70. The inventory of his goods and chattels, taken 2 Jan. 1671/2, amounted to Pounds9-5-2; the inventory of his lands, taken 11 Jan. amounted to Pounds75-3-2; and debts amounted to Pounds 46-2-0 were owing to him (Stebbins Genealogy, vol 1, pp 51-59)."

9/23/2017 at 1:49 AM

Thanks, Roland.

Kevin

9/25/2017 at 11:14 AM

For Sarah Stebbins father John see Find A Grave Memorials # 138948551 and 46119834.

For Sarah's husband see:
1. ROWLAND STEBBING, baptised at Bocking, co. Essex, 5 Nov 1592, son of Thomas Stebbing of Bocking and older brother Martin Stebbing. He married at Bocking, 30 Nov. 1618, Sarah Whiting, whose baptism does not appear in the existing Register of Bocking.
Tim

9/26/2017 at 9:42 AM

FindAGrave.com is not correct. It frequently isn’t. In fact the information on there is so bad it should be completely ignored. No genealogist has ever published any statement that suggests that Sarah Whiting of the county of Bocking, Essex was daughter of John Whiting of Boston, Lincolnshire. The two towns are very distant from each other and no baptism or probate record has ever been found to suggest such a connection.

John Whiting of Boston, Lincolnshire died testate and left a will recorded in the parish register of St. Botolph, Boston, Lincholnshire dated 20 Oct 1617. He names his wife Isabel and his children Isabel, Margaret, James, john, Audrey and Samuel. The baptisms for all his children are found in the same parish registers. He did not have a daughter Sarah. And Sarah Whiting who came to New England has no known relationship to any other Whiting family in England or New England. None.

Three men of the name Whiting arrived in New England by 1640: Samuel, William and Nathaniel. Of these three immigrants only the origin of Samuel Whiting has been discovered. The origins of the other two men are unknown at this time according to Robert Charles Anderson, FASG (Fellow of the American Society of Genealogists) and head of the Great Migration Project at NEHGS.

Samuel Whiting was of Boston, Lincolnshire, England and he was the son of John Whiting and his wife Isabel of Boston, Lincolnshire. This is the only Whiting family known to have come from Boston, Lincolnshire to New England. Samuel is not related to Sarah, William or Nathaniel that we know of. John named one wife in his will: Isabel. There is now basis for the statement on FindAGrave that he had other wives named Margaret Bonner or Faith. And on some sites you’ll see a wife Sarah Smith which is a complete conflation with another Whiting family. Isabel was John's only known wife. A series of deeds and grants show that Samuel Whiting received grants made to his brother John Back in Boston, Lincolnshire proving Samuel's origin.

This family was investigated extensively by Jacobus and there is an excellent summary article published in the Essex Genealogist.

If you are interested in John Whiting and Samuel Whiting of Boston, Lincolnshire:

For peer reviewed journals see:

The Essex Genealogist 23:218-28
NEHGR 8:19, 123:161-69;
The American Genealogist 34:15-17, 46:256;

For narratives see:
Susan Hardman Moore, Abandoning America: Life-stories from Early New England (Woodbridge, Suffolk, 2013) p 320:
Donald Lines Jacobus, The Bulkeley Genealogy, Rev. Peter Bulkeley (New Haven 1933) 29-33;
Sibley 1:363-66

For primary sources see:
Winthrop's Journal 1 :240, 243;
Winthrop Papers 4:94;
MA Bay Colony Records 1:372;
Essex Quarterly Court Records 2:270;
Essex Probate Records 3:352-54;

And take care if you run into Memoir of Rev. Samuel Whiting, D.D. by William Whiting because that book is based on a fraudulent journal supposedly written by one Obadiah Turner who never existed. And there is no evidence he was ever awarded a D.D., etc.

This a completely unrelated Whiting family.

9/26/2017 at 10:13 AM

Here's a direct link (Subscription required) for Marilyn Fitzpatrick, The Whiting Family of Lynn, The Essex Genealogist (2003) 23:219

https://web1.americanancestors.org/databases/essex-genealogist-the/...

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