John Edward Howland

Is there anyone who might be able to help me verify/make a connection/tell me I'm on the right path:
My birthfather: John Edward Howland 1935–2015
BIRTH 10 FEB 1935 • LA, California
DEATH 17 DEC 2015
His father:
Beverly Hale "Bud" Howland 1908–1980
BIRTH 25 APR 1908 • Palmyra Township, Lenawee, Michigan
DEATH 26 OCT 1980 • Butte County, California,
paternal grandfather
HIS father:
Waldemar Harcourt Howland 1877–1956
BIRTH 10 MAY 1877 • Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
DEATH 21 JUL 1956 • Butte, California
HIS father:
Luman Jackson Howland 1835–1888
BIRTH 06 JULY 1835 • New York, United States
DEATH 1888 • ohio
2nd great-grandfather
HIS father:
Benjamin Reed Howland 1804–1884
BIRTH 27 APR 1804 • Freetown, Bristol County, Massachusetts
DEATH JAN 1884 • Dennis, Barnstable, Massachusetts, United States
3rd great-grandfather

From there, I am stuck. Help?

Why aren't these profiles on Geni? Please enter them, along with whatever source data you have to support the line.

And their spouses, please.

I have added them Erica Howton. I've been nervous to add them for messing up the tree until I get more clarification. Thank you.

ReBecca Elizabeth Bennett Yay ! So far it looks good. So now what you want to do is go to town documenting your uncertain guy. Try and fill in everything you can find out about him. Add vital records & Census reports. Military service. Occupation, travel, cause of death, residences. All the kids, all the spouses family. By painting in the details it will pop out if something doesn’t make sense. Ask away if you’re not sure where to look for records.

I’d say Luman Jackson Howland & his father are the ones to focus on. Work backwards - most recent records.

Waldemar's mother was Luman's 2nd wife, Jennie Torbitt, married 1873. She remarried

Name: Jennie T. Baldwin
[Jennie T. Turbett] 
Birth Date: 3 Apr 1850
Birth Place: Penn
Death Date: 10 Mar 1918
Death Place: Peoria, Peoria, Illinois
Burial Date: 12 Mar 1918
Burial Place: Palmyra, Mich.
Death Age: 67
Occupation: Nurse
Race: White
Marital Status: W
Gender: Female
Residence: Adrian, Mich.
Father Name: Geo. W. Turbett
Father Birth Place: Penn.
Mother Name: Tabitha Oren
Mother Birth Place: Penn.
FHL Film Number: 1544380

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FSIllinoisDeath&...

Waldemar's mother was Luman's 2nd wife, Jennie Turbett

Michigan Marriage records 

Name: W H Howland
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1877
Birth Place: Ohio
Marriage Date: 29 Oct 1899
Marriage Place: Riga, Lenawee, Michigan, USA
Residence Place: Palmyra, Michigan
Father: Lyman Howland
Mother: Jennie Turbett
Spouse: Carrie M Porter
Record Number: 349

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/9093/41326_342359-00509?pid=77...

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Jennie Torbitt
 in the Cuyahoga County, Ohio, Marriage Records and Indexes, 1810-1973

Name: Jennie Torbitt
[Jennie Turbett] 
Marriage Date: 3 Mar 1873
Form Type: Marriage
Gender: Female
Spouse: Lamans Howland

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1876/32365_225648-00230?pid=27...

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And there's something not right about Benjamin Reed Howland.  I don't think he was the farmer in Lisle NY.  Electa Tracy's bio says they moved to Ohio.  So I think he didn't marry Mary Bowk either.  If he re married after Electa's death, it would have been in Ohio.

Also, Electa was educated.  This doesn't smell like a farm family.

Here's Jennie Howland's 2nd marriage

Name: Jennie Howlan
Maiden: Turbett
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1850
Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Marriage Date: 12 Sep 1888
Marriage Place: Adrian, Lenawee, Michigan, USA
Residence Place: Palmyra, Michigan
Father: George Turbett
Spouse: Harvey I Baldwin
Record Number: 351

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/9093/41326_342428-00407?pid=39...

Yeah, that's why I'm struggling with Benjamin Reed. I am slowly trudging. Fire on the farm last night so genealogy got pushed to back burner (ha!).

Let’s summon managers for the enigmatic Benjamin R. Howland and see what they think

Tanya Margriet Pandolfo How does he have two wives having children at the same time

Mary B. Howland & Electa Richardson

(As seen in an ancestry.com tree)

Noble Howland & Betsey Howland had a son Benjamin, was it this one?

A Reed middle name suggests a Reed ancestor and I do not see one so far.

ReBecca Elizabeth Bennett you had posted a death date / location of DEATH JAN 1884 • Dennis, Barnstable, Massachusetts, United States

But did not use that in the profile. Can you reference where that came from? It fits with a Freetown MA birth but not a NY, PA or Ohio person. Which doesn’t fit with Mary Rouk either - she looks like a NY person.

We are at a difficult place in history, when the Howlands exploded out of sedate Freetown & went pioneering.

Eugene Thomas can you add source data to Mary B. Howland and a separate Benjamin Howland husband? They are two different people in my opinion. I do not know which one belonged to Noble as father as yet. Also adding Mary Rouk’s Children will help, and Electra’s children.

Linda Sue Finger lf any comments you could add on this line is much appreciated

I’m pretty happy with the way this tree has shaped up.

If you look at the supporting evidence for Noble Howland

In the 1820 Census he’s heading a family of 10 in Lisle, Broome County, NY, and in 1830, his family is only a headcount of 5 in Coudersport, Potter County, PA.

So when he pioneered into Eulalia Township around 1826, he left his grown kids behind in Center Lisle - and the cemetery there is full of Howlands.

The mystery left is why is Electa Tracy’s death date given as 1862 when Benjamin Reed Howland is clearly on wife 2 by 1850? Divorce was very unusual, and he had son Luman living with him & Mary, Luman’s age 15. But where were Electa’s girls?

Could this be her? Electa Howland
in the Ohio, County Marriage Records, 1774-1993

Name: Electa Howland
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 5 Apr 1850
Marriage Place: Lucas, Ohio, USA
Spouse: Ira Richardson
Film Number: 000912940

Electa Richardson
in the 1860 United States Federal Census

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Name: Electa Richardson
Age: 51
Birth Year: abt 1809
Gender: Female
Birth Place: New York
Home in 1860: Defiance, Defiance, Ohio
Post Office: Defiance
Dwelling Number: 121
Family Number: 119
Household Members:
Name Age
Ira Richardson 64
Electa Richardson 51

I had glanced at it before. I like it, locations and dates and "storyline" fit.

Can you add the notes to the profie & let's see if we can prove this out?

I've been looking to find newspapers or anything that would show divorce but no luck yet. I joined an Ohio Just Ask page and they haven't found anything either.

I think he might have married before and after

Ira Richardson

Newspapers are a good idea but was the divorce in Ohio or New York? I think we know the reason from the age of Benjamin’s 2nd wife. :). The Defiance, Ohio location is pretty compelling; it’s in the DAR record.

I'm looking in the "Reclaim the Records" pages to figure that one out, where the divorce might have taken place.

Brick wall....

I think you’re OK, we postulate that there must have been a divorce since we have both people remarrying, and reasonable identity evidence. A suggestion would be as always to keep building tree. I would not have jumped on your Electa Howland wedding record if the profile for her daughter living in Defiance Ohio hadn’t been made.

Well, don't stop jumping! I'm still overly excited, just also confused so any help is truly appreciated!

Does anyone have contact with Steve Riddle or Douglas Tracy?