Lord John Jeremiah Ellsworth - Portrait of a FAKE

Started by Private User on Saturday, June 16, 2018
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6/16/2018 at 4:00 PM

1) Titled heirs were an *extreme* exception among colonists, almost always the result of appointment to a major Colonial office (and just about never in New England).

2) Middle names were *extremely* rare before about 1700, increasing in frequency through the 18th century, usually starting at the top of society and working their way down.

3) It can safely be said that there were multiple Ellsworth/Aylsworth families, because the name also occurs independently among the ancestors of the Stockett and Plummer families of Maryland. (This appears to be a family that relocated from Gloucestershire to Kent.)

6/30/2018 at 8:51 PM
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7/1/2018 at 2:02 AM

The John name comes from a bad merge into John Aylesworth

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7/1/2018 at 2:09 AM

Theophilus "Christopher" Elswaert parents are not known. He’s from Bristol.

7/1/2018 at 2:12 AM

Note: The name of "Eelstown" so often seen in texts about the history of the Ellsworth family has long ago been disproven. There is no such town in Cambridgeshire or even in England nor was there ever.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ellsworth-135

7/1/2018 at 2:29 AM

Why does she die in Notts when married to a Cambridgeshire man?

Mary Ellsworth

7/1/2018 at 2:38 AM

I found reference to a title.

Josiah Ellsworth

“Supposedly the Ellsworth's are a descendant of Sir John Ellsworth of the time of Edward the Third. (1312-1377). “

1377, sounds OK. But not 1653.

5/11/2022 at 6:23 PM

Uncertain Existence

The Lucia Ellsworth, {Fictional} and Sir John Ellsworth, {Fictional} appear to be a fiction created to supply parents for a number of immigrants to America. The only published source, (Cutter, see below) is known to be unreliable. There is no record of any John Ellsworth being knighted. A search of records has discovered no Ellsworths born in Cambridgeshire during the relevant period. The name of "Eelstown", previously listed as his birthplace and the birthplace of many others from this family, does not exist.

Several alleged descendants have already been detached from this profile. Research indicates that daughters Ann and Jemima also may not have existed, while son Arthur Ellsworth is doubtless a conflation with Arthur Aylesworth.

Disconnected children

5/11/2022 at 7:22 PM

Here are more details.

Spurious Pedigree

Supposedly the Ellsworth's are a descendant of Sir John Ellsworth of the time of Edward the Third. (1312-1377).

(I) Sergeant Josias Ellsworth, the immigrant ancestor, was the son of John Ellsworth, and said to have been a descendant of Sir John Ellsworth, in the time of Edward III, who resided in Cambridgeshire, England. This conjecture is derived from "Mr. John Ellsworth, who was a respectable merchant in London, early in the nineteenth century, who stated that it was a tradition in his family which had long resided in Yorkshire, that a member of it had formerly removed to foreign parts; that he was a young man when he left, and never returned."

https://www.aylesworth.net/Confidence_family_DWT_CSS/ellsworth_fami...

"Among the earliest records of the family in England were of Albin de Ellesworthe of Cambridgeshire in 1273, [[Sampson Ellsworthe Sampson Ellsworthe] Samson de Ellesworth] and Robert de Elesworde of the same country at a slightly later date. [[Thomas de Ellsworthe Thomas de Ellsworthe] Thomas de Ellesworth] of the same place in 1292, [[Sir John Ellsworth, {Fictional} Sir John Ellsworth, {Fictional}] Sir John Ellsworth] of the same line in the early fourteenth century (who is claimed by some authorities to have been an ancestor of the emigrant [[Josiah Ellsworth Josiah Ellsworth] Josiah or Josias].) … “. (Note: this pedigree is disproved.)

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