Jans Woertman

Started by Private User on Sunday, May 15, 2022
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Private User
5/15/2022 at 1:26 PM

This is the worst incident of parent confusion Ive seen so far.

Erica Howton are you up for this challenge?

Jan Jansz Woertman

5/15/2022 at 7:39 PM

Easy solution, as they are all theories. Detaching and locking relationships.

5/15/2022 at 8:56 PM

This is interesting. If it’s the right marriage record, John William wasn’t born in England at all, Willemsz is his patronymic, and not sure when, where and by whom the Woertman surname was acquired.

Marriage Jan Willemss and Jannetje Harmans 22 November, 1629 Amsterdam. According the record this Jan Willemsz was born in Amsterdam (b. abt 1608) and Jannetje was from Zwolle (Swol) (b. abt 1607)

See https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Woertman-9

5/15/2022 at 9:28 PM

So this researcher has entirely different origins from the “traditional.”

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/65457887/jan-jansz-woertman

Private User

5/15/2022 at 9:36 PM

Hatte Anne Blejer - you curate here. I’ve made the updates to profiles Jan Jansz Woertman his wife Harmtje ‘Hannah’ Jans their children Lysbeth Jansen Anneken Woertman & Dirck Janszen Woertman, of Brooklyn Ferry and Harmtje’s 2nd husband Lodowycke de Jong & their daughter Annetje Lodowycks

5/16/2022 at 5:48 PM

Erica Howton - Thank you. I took a look at Jan Jansz Woertman

5/16/2022 at 5:54 PM

This is why I curated that profile - https://www.geni.com/path/Hatte-Blejer+is+related+to+Jan-Woertman?from=6000000003496914092&path_type=inlaw&to=6000000001852489594

My gg grandmother was brought up by her half-sister, whose husband, Peter Conover, was related to De Nys family who were married with the Woertman family.

My ggg grandfather seems to be ethnically German but from the Netherlands. William Mintz / Mints, from Cohansey (Fairfield Township, Fairton), Southern New Jersey. His daughter said he was Dutch, but from Dutch researchers I learned that Mintz is found in ethnic Germans in Eastern Netherlands. Of course I have since read about a large German community in that era, including in Amsterdam.

5/16/2022 at 5:55 PM

So it's fascinating to find another ethnic German in the Dutch Reform community.

5/16/2022 at 6:28 PM

Colonial New Amsterdam reflected Netherland ethnic diversity, I think? Daughter Lysbeth Jansen married 1) “a Norseman” 2) from present day Belgium.

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