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Alasia di Saluzzo

French: Alice de Saluces
Also Known As: "Alesia", "Alice de Lacy"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Saluzzo, Cuneo, Italy
Death: between September 10, 1304 and July 11, 1311 (63-79)
England (United Kingdom)
Place of Burial: Church of the Black Friars, Pontrefact, Yorkshire, England
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Manfred III, marquess of Saluzzo and Beatrice of Savoy
Wife of Edmund de Lacy, baron of Pontefract, 3rd Earl of Lincoln (disputed)
Mother of Henry de Lacy, 3rd Earl of Lincoln, Baron of Pontefract; Margaret de Lacy and John de Lacy
Sister of Tommaso I, IV marchese di Saluzzo and Agnese de Vesci
Half sister of Constance II of Sicily

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About Alasia di Saluzzo

Alasia of Saluzzo (Alice de Saluces) (c. 1236 – before 12 Jul 1311) was the daughter of Manfred III of Saluzzo and his wife Beatrice of Savoy, and sister to Thomas I of Saluzzo. (Saluzzo is in Piedmont, now part of Italy.)

Alasia had been brought to England by Peter II, Count of Savoy, uncle to Eleanor of Provence, Queen consort of England, and spouse of King Henry III.

[%E2%80%9CGrant to [Amadeus, count of Savoy and marquess of Italy] that the king will marry one of the daughters of the count's daughter, who he shall send to England, either to John de Warenna, who will be earl of Warenne, or to Edmund de Lacy, who will be earl of Lincoln, who are boys in the ward of the king.” - Calendar of Patent Rolls, Hen. III, vol. 3, p. 469]

Family

In early May 1247 at Woodstock, Kent, England, she married Edmund de Lacy (c.1230–1258), who was the son of John de Lacy, 2nd Earl of Lincoln and Margaret de Quincy. He died before his mother so never achieved the title Earl of Lincoln.

Their children

  • 1. Henry de Lacy, 3rd Earl of Lincoln , b. Jan 1250/1251, d. 5 Feb 1310/1311 Holborn (Age ~ 60 years). Henry succeeded his grandmother as the 3rd Earl of Lincoln. Married 1) Margaret Longespée 2) Joan FitzMartin
  • 2. John de Lacy, 2nd son, died young
  • 3. Margaret de Lacy, bur. , Black Friars, Pontefract. Married George de Cantilupe.

Sources

From http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MONFERRATO,%20SALUZZO,%20SAVONA.htm...

ALASIA ([1236]-before 12 Jul 1311, bur Pontefract, Church of the Black Friars). "Mainfredus III marchio Salutiarum" appointed "Beatricem de Sabaudia suam uxorem" as co-tutor of "Thomæ et Alasinæ filiorum suorum" in his testament dated 1244[538]. Henry III King of England agreed that “unam filiarum filiæ...comitis [Sabaudi%C3%A6]” would marry “vel Johanni de Warenna qui si vixerit comes erit Warennæ, vel Edmundo de Lacy qui si vixerit comes erit Lincolniæ” by charter dated 1246[539]. A manuscript history of the Lacy family records that “Edmundum de Lacy comitem” married “dominam Aleciam filiam marchionis de Salves in Italia, cognatam reginæ Anglia ex parte Sabinensi” when she was “in juventute sua”[540]. “Edmundus de Lascy constabularius Cestriæ” donated property to Roche Abbey, for the souls of “…Alesiæ uxoris meæ”, by undated charter[541]. As Alasia gave birth to her first child in 1250, it is unlikely that she could have been born later than 1236, although at that date her own mother was probably only thirteen years old. Given this tight chronology, it is assumed that Alasia was her parents' first child. m (Woodstock early May 1247) EDMUND de Lacy Earl of Lincoln, son of JOHN de Lacy Earl of Lincoln & his second wife Margaret de Quincy (1230-2 Jun 1258, bur Stanlaw Abbey).

From http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#...

2. EDMUND (1230-2 Jun 1258, bur Stanlow Abbey). A manuscript history of the Lacy family names “Edmundum de Lacy comitem, constabularium Cestriæ”, born in 1230, as son of “Johannes de Lacy primus comes Lincolniæ” and his second wife, but adding that he predeceased his mother and therefore did not succeed as Earl of Lincoln[1021]. He succeeded his father in 1240 as Earl of Lincoln, although he does not appear to have been formally invested with the earldom[1022]. “Edmundus de Lascy constabularius Cestriæ” donated property to Roche Abbey, for the souls of “patris mei Johannis de Lascy et Margaretæ matris meæ, et Alesiæ uxoris meæ”, by undated charter[1023]. The Annals of Tewkesbury record the death in 1257 of “Eadmundus de Lacy frater Matilidis comitissæ Gloucestriæ” and his burial “apud ---”[1024]. m (Woodstock early May 1247) ALASIA di Saluzzo, daughter of MANFREDO III Marchese di Saluzzo & his wife Béatrix de Savoie ([1236]-before 12 Jul 1311, bur Pontefract, Church of the Black Friars). Henry III King of England agreed that “unam filiarum filiæ...comitis [Sabaudi%C3%A6]” would marry “vel Johanni de Warenna qui si vixerit comes erit Warennæ, vel Edmundo de Lacy qui si vixerit comes erit Lincolniæ” by charter dated 1246[1025]. A manuscript history of the Lacy family records that “Edmundum de Lacy comitem” married “dominam Aleciam filiam marchionis de Salves in Italia, cognatam reginæ Anglia ex parte Sabinensi” when she was “in juventute sua”[1026]. “Edmundus de Lascy constabularius Cestriæ” donated property to Roche Abbey, for the souls of “…Alesiæ uxoris meæ”, by undated charter[1027]. This marriage was arranged through Pierre de Savoie, uncle of Queen Eleanor and great-uncle of Alasia[1028]. As Alasia gave birth to her first child in 1250, it is unlikely that she could have been born later than 1236, although at that date her own mother was probably only thirteen years old. Given this tight chronology, it is assumed that Alasia was her parents' first child. Earl Edmund & his wife had three children:

a) HENRY (6 or 13 Jan 1251-Holborn 5 Feb 1311, bur 28 Feb 1311 London, St Paul's). A manuscript history of the Lacy family names “Henricus de Lacy comes Lincolniæ” as son of “Edmundum de Lacy comitem” and his wife[1029]. He succeeded his father in 1258 as Earl of Lincoln. ...

b) JOHN ([1252/56]-after 23 Dec 1256). His parentage is confirmed by the following document: A document dated 23 Dec 1256 confirmed the agreement for the marriage between "Edmund de Lacy...Henry [his] firstborn son and heir" and "William Lungespe...Margaret [his] firstborn daughter and heir", noting that “if Henry die before contracting the said marriage, then John the younger son of Edmund shall marry her”[1044].

c) MARGARET (-after 1273, bur Pontefract Church of the Black Friars). King Henry III confirmed the marriage contract between "Georgium filium Willielmi de Cantilupo" and "Margaritam filiam Edmundi de Lacy", dated 1254[1045]. m (contract ratified 1 Sep 1254) GEORGE de Cauntelo Lord of Abergavenny, son of WILLIAM [IV] de Cauntelo of Calne, Wiltshire & his wife Eva de Briouse heiress of Abergavenny (Abergavenny 29 Mar 1252-18 Oct 1273).

References

  • Seine Witwe, die mehrere nordenglische Güter als Wittum erhalten hatte, heiratete nicht erneut, sie starb 1311.[4]
  • [4] David A. Carpenter: The struggle for mastery. Britain, 1066-1284. Oxford University Press, Oxford 2003. ISBN 0-19-522000-5, S. 421 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_de_Lacy,_2._Earl_of_Lincoln
  • Henry Lacy 3rd Earl of Lincoln, Historical Dictionary of Late Medieval England, 1272-1485, ed. Ronald H. Fritze, William Baxter Robison, (Greenwood Press, 2002), 305.
  • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_de_Lacy,_Baron_of_Pontefract retrieved April 2019
  • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_de_Lacy,_3rd_Earl_of_Lincoln
  • http://thesignsofthetimes.com.au/37/69209.htm
  • http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148750&tree=LEO cites
  • A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 311
  • The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. VII 680
  • http://nielsenhayden.com/genealogy-tng/getperson.php?personID=I1574... cites
  • Royal Ancestry, by Douglas Richardson. Kimball G. Everingham, ed. 2013.
  • Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008., year only.
  • The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, Wife of Reverend John Owsley, Generations 1-15, Fourth Preliminary Edition by Ronny O. Bodine and Bro. Thomas Spalding, Jr. 2013
  • “King Henry lll and the ‘Aliens,’ 1236 - 1272” in Thirteenth Century England II: Proceedings of the Newcastle Upon Tyne Conference 1987. Peter R. Coss, P. R. Coss, Simon D. Lloyd GoogleBooks
  • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontefract_Friary “The heart of Edmund de Lacy was buried in the Dominican church.”
  • 'Friaries: Black friars of Pontefract', in A History of the County of York: Volume 3, ed. William Page (London, 1974), pp. 271-273. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/yorks/vol3/pp271-273 [accessed 16 April 2019]. “Edmund de Lacy, son of John de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln, and Margaret de Quincy, was born in 1227. He early attached himself to Richard Wych, and after the bishop's death, 3 April 1253, he determined to establish a house of Friars Preachers on his own estates. With due deliberation he chose the town of Pontefract; and accompanied by many discreet men, both religious and secular, he went to the spot and laid the foundation stone with his own hand, saying, 'To the honour of our Lady Mary, mother of God and Virgin, and of St. Dominic, confessor, to whose brethren I assign this place, and also of St. Richard, bishop and confessor, formerly my lord and dearest friend, I wishing to found a church in this place lay the first stone !' Whereupon the stone immediately split into three parts, as though to proclaim approval of the choice of the three patron saints. This took place probably about 1256, some six years before Richard Wych was formally canonized. (fn. 3) Edmund, dying on 22 July 1257, left his heart to be buried in the Dominican church of Pontefract. ...”
  • http://www.pontarc.org.uk/
  • “Priory or Friary – Who Lies Where?” Elizabeth Ashworth, 16 July 2015. link “A list of burials at St Richard’s Friary was compiled by John Wriothesley, Garter King-of-Arms, who died in 1504. Presumably taken from the friary records, he records that the heart of the founder, Edmund de Lacy, is buried there. Also listed are Edmund’s wife, Alice, daughter of the Marquess de Saluzzo, their infant son John and daughter Margaret; also the heart of Alice’s husband, George de Cantlowe, and their infant son; also Agnes de Vescy, who was Alice’s sister. ...”
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Alasia di Saluzzo's Timeline

1236
1236
Saluzzo, Cuneo, Italy
1251
1251
Bolingbroke, Lincolnshire, England (United Kingdom)
1253
1253
Of Abergavenny,Gwent, , , Wales
1254
1254
Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England (United Kingdom)
1304
September 10, 1304
Age 68
England (United Kingdom)
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Church of the Black Friars, Pontrefact, Yorkshire, England (United Kingdom)