Bertha, queen of Italy

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Bertha d'Ivrea (of the Obertenghi), queen of Italy

Italian: Berta d'Ivrea (degli Obertenghi), regina d'Italia
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Italy
Death: after 1014
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Marquis Oberto II, count of Luni and Railinde Ripondo, of Como
Wife of Arduin of Ivrea, king of Italy
Mother of conte Ardicino d'Ivrea, Arduino II; Ottone di Ivrea; Guiberto di Ivrea and Ichilda di Ivrea
Sister of Albert Azzo I, margrave of Milan; Ugo degli Obertenghi, margravio di Milano; March. Adalberto IV; Obizzo degli Obertenghi, margravio della Liguria; Bertha of the Obertenghi, of Milan of Luni and 1 other

Occupation: margravine of Ivrea & queen of Italy (1002-1014)
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About Bertha, queen of Italy

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertha,_Queen_of_Italy - Her parentage is unknown, but:

  • she is often said to be identical with Bertha of Milan,[1] who was a member of the Obertenghi dynasty. [Treccani & Medlands agree]
  • Other scholars suggest that Bertha may have been the daughter of Hubert of Tuscany[2] or of Amadeus (son of Anscar II)[3]

- http://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/re-d-italia-arduino_(Dizionario... - Sposò una Berta, molto probabilmente la figlia di Oberto II, marchese della Liguria orientale, dalla quale ebbe tre figli:



There are 2 distinct pages also on wikipedia, which however report the probability, which we also find on her father's Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otbert_II,_Margrave_of_Milan :

  • half of the languages report the thesis of a single Berta. (the other half don't specify)
  • MedLands simply quotes them in place 3) and 6) distinctly without specifications.

(it is certainly a beautiful coincidence that King Arduin is forced to abdicate and become a friar in exile in the mountains in 1013... and a sister of the same name from Berta is married in 1014... and Arduino dies in 1015... but what happened to the former Queen? :)

There is no document in MedLands that contradicts the thesis of a single Berta .. only the date of birth c.997 assigned to Berta(6) by whom or what? [and the "c." of MedLands are very elastic]


 Oberto [II] & his wife had six children: 

3) BERTA . "Ardoinus…rex" confirmed the rights of the church of Como in the bridges and county of Chiavenna "quæ Hicila filia comitis Ottonis in villa Slopence in pago Ratenzgowe et in comitatu Adalberti comitis habuit" by charter dated 25 Mar 1002 which names "Berta regina nostra coniunx nostrique regni consors"[341]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. m ARDOINO Marchese d'Ivrea, son of DADO Marchese d'Ivrea & his wife [Bertrada ---] (-Fruttuaria Abbey 15 Dec 1015). He was crowned ARDOINO King of Italy at Pavia 15 Feb 1002.

6) BERTA ([997]-[29 Dec 1037/1040]). "Heinricus…imperator" confirmed the property of the abbey of Fruttuaria, referring to property donated by "Manfredus marchio et Berta uxor eius et fratres eiusdem Manfredi, id est Alricus episcopus et Oddo comes, et Ardoinus consobrinus eorum", by charter dated 1014[367]. "Oldericus Maginfredus marchio f. quondam…Maginfredi marchionis et Berta comitissa jugales filia q. Obberti marchionis" sold property "in comitatu Parmensi, Placensiensi, Ticinensi, Tortonensi, Vercellensi, Aquensi, Astensi, Eporediensi, Torinensi, Oradiensi, Albensi, Avigenensi, Aberganensi, Vigintimiliensi" to "Sigifredo presbitero filio q. Adelgisi", with "notitia propinquorum parentum suorum, id est Adalberti marchionis germani sui et Alberti infantis nepotis sui", by charter dated 6 Jun 1021[368]. Her parentage is confirmed by a charter dated 1029 under which "Alricus…Astensis Ecclesiæ Episcopus et Odelricus qui et Magenfridus…Marchio germanus et filii bone memorie itemque Magnifredi…Marchionis, et Berta…Comitissa, jugales, filia quondam Autberti…Marchionis" founded the monastery of Segusini Sancti Justi[369]. She inherited land in the counties of Tortone, Parma and Piacenza[370]. "Odelricus qui et Manfredus marchio f. quondam Manfredi marchionis et Berta comitissa jugales f. quondam Autberti marchionis" granted privileges "in comitatibus Taurinensi, Vercellensi, Iporiensi, Astensi, Albensi, Albiganensi, Vigintimiliensi, Parmensi, Placentinensi, Ticinensi, Aquensi" to the monastery of "S. Mariæ et Ss. Solutoris, Adventoris et Octavii braidam juxta Palatium" by charter dated 1031, signed by "Maginfredi march., Adalberti et Opizzoni utriusque marchionis qui Bertæ germane…Cuniberti et Wilelmi seu marchionis…"[371]. "Chuonradus Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed donations to the monastery of San Giusto at Susa made by "Mainfredus marchio nec non Berta comitissa", by charter dated 29 Dec 1037[372]. "Adaleida f. quondam Maginfredi marchionis et coniux Ermanni ducis et marchionis" donated property "in loco Porciana" to the monastery of San Stefano at Genoa by charter dated 4 Jul [1038], signed by "Bertæ comitissæ…"[373]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed the possessions of the church at Asti by undated charter placed in the compilation with other charters dated 1091, which notes among others the donations by "marchio Manfredus et Berta comitissa et Alricus episcopus"[374]. m ( [1014] ) MANFREDO UDALRICO Marchese di Susa and Turin, son of MANFREDO [I] Marchese of Turin & his wife Prangarda di Canossa (992-Turin 29 Oct 1034, bur Turin, cathedral of San Giovanni).


same Berta on: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obertenghi#Genealogia_essenziale