Elizabeth “Margaret” Kennedy of Dunure

Lady Elizabeth / Margaret KENNEDY Of Denure , F

• Birth Date abt 1360
• Birth Place dunure Castle, Maybole, Ayrshire, Scotland
• Father Sir John KENNEDY Of Dunure , M (~1330-1385)
• Mother Heiress Mary / Marjory de MONTGOMERY Of Stair-Montgomery & Cassillis , F (~1340-)

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Origins

John Kennedy married a lady named Mary, referred to in his charter of 29 November 1371, but who she was is not certain. It has be variously stated that she was the Marjorie Montgomerie from whom or with whom he acquired Cassillis, but if so, she must have been his second wife; that she was Mary de Carrick, or a Mary Douglas, but no evidence on the point has yet be found. He had issue, with other children whose names have not been ascertained:

• 1. Sir Gilbert, who succeeded him.
• 2. Margaret, married to Sir John Forbes of Druminor, who succeeded before 1385, and had issue. She is styled simply daughter of the Laird of Dunure, and was probably John’s daughter.

Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol II, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 444-47.

Family

Publications, Volume 34, By Scottish History Society. Page 471. GoogleBooks From The M.S.S. of the House of FORBES (page 405.] by LUMSDEN and Improved by Mr. WILLIAM FORBES Professor of Law in the UNIVERSITY of GLASGOW.

He observes that all the Forbesses being cut off at the Batle of Duplin The Laird of Driminor left his wife with Child who brought forth a Posthumous Son called Sir John Forbes with the black Lip (1) from a Mark in his face, he Married they Say Elizabeth Kennedy Daughter of Dunnure. By whom he had four Sons (2):

1. Sir ALEXANDER the heir of the family
2. SIR WILLIAM of Pitsligo
3. Sir JOHN FORBES the first of the house of Tolquhoon in 1417 (3)
4. ALASTER CAME who was the first of the House of Brux.

• 1 This Sir John Lived in 1397.
• 2 By the time She must be Sister to Sir Gilbert daughter of John Kennedy.
• 3 In Arbu-Challatory.

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Spouses

1. FORBES, John "of the Black Lip" (Sir )

Children

1. FORBES, William 1st of Kinaldie, and jure uxoris of Pitsligo (Sir )+
2. FORBES, John 1st Laird of Tolquhon (Sir )+
3. FORBES, Alaster 'Cam' 1st Laird of Brux+
4. FORBES, Alexander 1st Lord Forbes+

Notes

Lumsden states in his family history that he was called sir John Forbes with the black lip by a mark he had on his face. He is first mentioned as Lord of Forbes 20th August, 1387, in the settlement of a dispute between him and Adam bishop of Aberdeen regarding the marches of the lands of Lurgyndaspok (Knockespok), when it was agreed that these lands which had been held in common between the Bishop and John of Forbes deceased should be in common between Forbes and the Bishop during the latter’s incumbancy. On the bishop’s death two years after, the dispute was renewed with his successor, and on 6th April, 1391, Robert III granted a warrant to perambulate the marches of the lands. It was mutually agreed on 5th July following that the lands of Lurgyndaspok between the burns of Condeland and Cotburne from head to foot, and the land of Tulycoscheny, should be in common between the bishop of Aberdeen and Sir John Forbes Knight, during their lifetime.

References

• GENEALOGY OF THE FAMILY OF FORBES, from the account of Mr. Mathew Lumsden of Tulliekerne, written in 1580, Inverness, Printed at the Journal Office, 1819, p. 10.
• http://www.patrickspeople.co.uk/ourfamily/2214.htm (Dead link)
• http://venitap.com/Genealogy/WebCards/ps31/ps31_183.html
• Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Forbes
• MEMORIALS OF THE FAMILY OF FORBES OF FORBESFIELD ... by Alexander Forbes, Aberdeen, 1902, p. 3-4.
• GENEALOGICAL AND HERALDIC DICTIONARY OF THE LANDED GENTRY, of Great Britain & Ireland, by J. Bernard Burke, Esq., London, 1852, Vol. 1, p. 407
• THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol IV, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 46-47.
• George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Vol. V, Ed. H. A. Doubleday & Howard de Walden (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1926), p. 544
• Way, George of Plean; Squire, Romilly of Rubislaw (1994). Collins Scottish Clan & Family Encyclopedia. Glasgow: HarperCollins (for the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs). p. 138. ISBN 0-00-470547-5.