Elizabeth Ogle

Evidence needed to support as daughter of Peter Jochimson and Ella Olofsdotter Steelman

Elizabeth [. . .], wife of John Ogle of Delaware. ... Her parentage and birth surname are unknown. She was once thought to be a Wollaston, but researchers have disproved this theory. During the 1990s, another researchers proposed that she may have been a Peterson, but this is unproven.

John Ogle of Delaware and his wife Elizabeth, had two (2) proven sons:

1. Thomas[17]
2. John (dsp).[17][18]

Descent is through Thomas Ogle. Note that Blackburn & Welfy (1906), insert a third son William into the line, but there's no proof for his existence.

Biography

Some genealogists have recorded Elizabeth's maiden name as Wollaston but no evidence has been located to substantiate this assumption. Elizabeth apparently was a woman of good sense and competent in managing her affairs and looking out for her sons Thomas and John. New Castle court records show that she was titheable, living on the north side of Christiana Creek, assessed with 1,000 acres.

In 1684 Elizabeth Ogle became a historical figure by her involvement in the border dispute between Lord Baltimore and William Penn. Samuel Land, Sherrif of New Castle, sent a letter dated 30 May 1684 to Penn, reporting that Jones Erskine and Andrew Tilley, who lived near the Widow Ogle had been warned by Colonel Talbott, under orders from Lord Baltimore, that if they did not yield obedience to Lord Baltimore, he would not yield obediance to Lord Baltimore, he would in three weeks' time return and turn them out. On his return he erected a fort near Christiana Bridge, six miles from New Castle. This location is now marked by a bronze tablet - a State Historical marker. The differences of Lord Baltimore and William Penn were settle, and Penn retained what had been claimed by the Governor.

Source: 'Smoky Mountain Clans', Donald B. Reagan, 1978, p 128b. 'The English Origin of John Ogle', Francis Hamilton Hibbard, 1967, p 14. 'Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants', Langston & Buck, 1986, p 199.

http://www.smokykin.com/ged/f000/f38/a0003871.htm

Disputed Origins

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ogle-59

John Ogles wife, Elizabeth, is another missing piece to the puzzle, since her parents remain unknown. In the past some believed she was the daughter of Thomas Wollaston.[15] In the 1990s, Dr. Peter Stebbins Craig, thought her father could have been ][[Jochimsson-1|Peter Jochimsson. Both of these theories are disputed.

In any case, it's common to see genealogies state that Elizabeth was born around 1650. Ironically, this weakens the idea that she was a Wollastan ... because it would mean that she was born before her father shipped off to war, by a decade and a half. It also creates another problem...

According to the 1671 Census of the Delaware, Thomas Wollaston was single. He married sometime after that, but before 1678. His two daughters were also born after 1671, but before 1680. So how could John Ogle be married to either of them by the close of 1671 ... let alone have children with either one of them, before that time?[11]

Inevitably, this strengthens the case for Craig's theory, which considers Elisabeth Petersdotter (b. c.1654), as a plausible wife, but there's a major problem ... There is no proof that Peter Yochim ever had a daughter named, Elizabeth.[16]

According to Scharf (1888), he started living in New Castle around 1667 ... laid down roots with Elizabeth, and quit that red coat. We don't know much about the wife ... But we do know that she was widowed, and outlived him by almost thirty years.

Death

Court documentation from Wm. Welch detailing George Talbot's illegal homestead on Elizabeth's property, shows that John died in 1684. His sons Thomas and John went on to inherit his land. ... and buy a lot more. None of it remains in Ogle hands but today, many American Ogles trace their line back to this Colonial family. And that's why he's remembered as "John of Delaware."

John's wife Elizabeth was granted administration of his estate on 19 Feb 1683/4.[19]

RECORD:

1. Peter Stebbins Craig and Henry Wesley Yocom, Yocums of Aronameck in Philadelphia, 1648 - 1702, The (National Genealogical Quarterly Vol. 71 No. 3 December 1983), pg. 247, 270-1. NOTE: Swedish Colonial News Vol. 1 No. 15 (Spring 1997) ?updated version??. " Elizabeth presumed daughter of Peter Jochimson, was born about 1654 and married John Ogle around 1670-71... On 9 Nov. 1686 Elizabeth Ogle conveyed the Hoeyard property to Peter Peterson Yocum. Warfield, supra, 29. She and her children continued to live on the property. Peter was absentee owner of Hoepyard until the time of his death in 1702. Peter Peterson Yocum's incolvement in subsidizing the home of widow Ogle and her two sons for over 15 years is convincing evidence that she was his sister."

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jochimsson-1:

Elizabeth Petersdotter, born in 1654, moved from her home as a teenager to help in the household of her uncle, Anders Stille, living on Christina River. Here she met and married John Ogle, an English soldier who had participated in the English conquest of the Delaware in 1664. John Ogle and Rev. Jacob Fabritius were indicted in 1675 for inciting the Swedes and Finns to riot in opposition to orders of the New Castle Court to build a dike and road for Hans Block, a Dutchman.

John Ogle and Anders Stille made their homes at Christiana Bridge, Christina River. Ogle, a big speculator in lands and tobacco, died insolvent in the winter of 1683/4. Adding to his widow's troubles was a 1684 raid by Colonel James Talbot from Maryland which resulted in the destruction of her hay and the building of a Maryland "fort" on her property. Elizabeth Ogle and Anders Stille then sold their property and moved to White Clay Creek. She lived at the "Hopyard," which had been surveyed for her husband the year before. Unable to pay all of the estate's debts, Elizabeth Ogle was discharged from all further debts of her husband on 17 June 1690 by the New Castle Court. Meanwhile, her brother Peter Petersson Yocum in 1687 had purchased the "Hopyard" to protect it from creditors. Elizabeth died before 12 Sept. 1702 when John Hans Steelman and Judith Yocum, as executors of the Yocum estate, sold the property.

John and Elizabeth Ogle had two sons:

Thomas Ogle, bom c. 1672, died 1734 in White Clay Creek Hundred, New Castle County; married [1] Mary Crawford, [2] widow Elizabeth Graham., John Ogle, born c. 1674, died 1720 in White Clay Creek Hundred; married widow Elizabeth Harris.

http://colonialswedes.org/forefather-family-profiles/