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Elizabeth (Betsy) “Shepherd Knee” Rose (Scott)

Also Known As: "Betsy Scott", "Betsey Burgess", "Elizabeth Go- sa- du- i- sga", "Elizabeth Shepherd Knee Go-Sa-Du-I-S-GA Hicks Scott"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Spring Place, Murray County, GA, United States
Death: November 05, 1825 (56)
Cherokee Nation East, Davidson County, Tennessee, United States
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Walter Scott and Go-sa-du-isga ‘Sarah’ Hicks
Wife of James (Ti-ka-lo-hi) “Crazy Chief” Vann; William Burgess I; John Shepherd; Johann Gaspar Faught, Jr.; Pleasant Rose and 2 others
Mother of Delilah Amelia McNair; Sarah Vann; Joseph Vann; James Vann; William Burgess II and 8 others
Sister of Go-sa-du-i-sga ‘Nancy’, ‘Nannie’ Scott; Mary “‘Polly’ Scott; Peggy “Margaret Ann” Scott; Sarah Jane "Sally" Scott and Richard Scott
Half sister of Go-sa-du-isga ‘Nancy’ Timberlake; Judge James Brown, Supreme Court of Cherokee Nation; William Andrew Brown, I; Charlotte Dougherty; Susan Brown and 3 others

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About Elizabeth (Betsy) “Shepherd Knee” Rose

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Elizabeth (Go-sa-dui-sga) Rose (HIcks-Scott) is a Cherokee woman

Biography

Elizabeth was Cherokee.
Elizabeth "Betsy" Scott was born in the Cherokee Nation (East) about 1774, the daughter of Walter Scott, a white man, and Sarah HIcks, a Cherokee woman. According to the Moravians, Sarah and Walter had three sons who died in infancy, and four daughters who survived. [1] Elizabeth, her husbands and children are incorrectly listed by Emmet Starr in the family of Go sa du i sga. [2] Starr also incorrectly listed Elizabeth as a member of the Wolf Clan. He had confused Charles Hicks' wife Nan ye hi Broom with Nan-ye-hi (possibly Conrad) the mother of Charles and Sarah Hicks. [3]

Along with her sister, Peggy, she was one of the nine wives of James Vann; they were the parents of a daughter, Delilah. She also had children by at least five white men: by Edward Adair, Edward, James, [4] and Walter Scott Adair, [5] by Edward Springston, Jennie and Edley Springston, [6] by John Shepherd, a son, John, [7] by Charles (?) Vogt, a son Charles, [8] and by Pleasant Rose, a son Tilghman. [9] Researcher James HIcks lists another man, William Burgess and a son, also William. The Moravians referred to the younger William's wife as a sister-in-law of Jennie Springston. [10] The Moravians wrote of her, "Betsy, who has already had 4 white men but been forsaken by all of them somewhat poorer than she was found... " [11]

According to Emmet Starr, Elizabeth died November 5, 1825. [12]

Research Notes

Copied from Cherokee Lineages: Register Report of Amatoya Moytoy (James Hicks Book Cherokee Lineages) 438.Elizabeth (HICKS)7 Scott (Sarah6 Hicks, NA-YE-HI5 Conrad, Jennie4 ANI'-WA'YA, Oconostota3, MOYTOY2, A-MA-DO-YA1) was born 1774, and died November 05, 1825.

She married (1) JAMES DI-GA-LO-HI VANN, CHIEF Bef. 1789, son of JOSEPH VANN and WA-LI VANN. He was born 1766 in Spring Place, GA, and died February 21, 1809 in Buffington's Tavern, GA.

Notes for JAMES DI-GA-LO-HI VANN, CHIEF:
Collections of the Georgia Historical Society, Ebenezer Newton's 1818 Diary;
... Soon after we passed the High-Tower, by the Indians called It-towah, and came to the top of the hill, we observed, by the roadside on an eminence, a tomb paled in and painted black with an inscription at the head, on a board, "here lies the body of James Vann who departed this life Feb 1809 aged 43. He was 1/2 Cherokee of Clan: Ani'-Ga'tâge'wi = Kituah or Wild Potato (Wa-Wli Vann) Translation: ?Di-ga-lo-hi = Large/Many Farms/Land?

She married (2) EDWARD ADAIR, SR Bef. 1791, son of JAMES ADAIR and ESTER MCBRIDE. He was born 1755, and died August 1820.

Notes for EDWARD ADAIR, SR:
Edward Sr may have been married to a Vann that mothered Edward Jr. His wife Betsy Scott was married to Chief James Vann and she may have been listed with her Vann name as the mother of Ed Jr. Edward Adair Sr and his brother John are supposed to be the half-Cherokee sons of the Indian trader James Adair; however, this has not been proved. Edward and John may have been Non-Cherokee relatives [nephews? great-nephews?] of the Indian Trader. Edward in particular was referred to in the records of Gideon Blackburn's School as a "White Patron" in 1807. Dr Emmet Starr refers to John & Edward as "Two brothers, John and Edward Adair, Scotchmen, came to America from North Ireland..." Edward was a Scot. They had two children:

Walter Scott 'Red Wat'8, b. January 28, 1791, CNE [GA]; d. September 26, 1854, Stilwell, Flint Dist, CNW.
James, b. 1793; d. February 1814, Georgia; m. Nancy _____; b. 1797; d. Aft. 1857.
She married (3) WILLIAM BURGESS I Bef. 1794.He was born Abt. 1760. They had one child:

William8 II, b. Abt. 1794; d. Aft. 1851.
She married (4) JOHN SHEPHERD, SR Bef. 1796.He was born Abt. 1760. They had one child:

John8, JR, b. 1796; d. Aft. 1855.
She married (5) EDWARD SPRINGSTON Bef. 1802, son of WILLIAM SPRINGSTON and WHITE WOMAN. He was born Abt. 1760.

Notes for EDWARD SPRINGSTON:
Up until recently (07/2000) I've had this individual with the name of William John Springston; however, cases before the Cherokee Supreme Court in 1826 involving the heirs and widow of Edward Springston, dec'd including; Edly Springston, Jane Vann nee Springston, John Shepard, and Edward Adair. Cherokee Supreme Court, Oct 1826, cases #103 and #104. Edward was non-Cherokee referred to as an "Indian Countryman" of Settico Town. He was a trader. They had two children:

Edley8, b. Abt. 1802, Ross Landing, TN; d. Abt. 1826.
Jennie, b. December 23, 1804, Georgia; d. August 04, 1863.
She married (6) _____ VOGT Bef. 1803. He was born Abt. 1760. They had one child:

Charles8 (Vogt) FAUGHT, b. 1803, Georgia; d. Abt. 1836.
She married (7) PLEASANT ROSE Bef. 1807. He was born Abt. 1760. They had one son:

Tilghman8, b. 1807. He was 1/4 Cherokee and attended Spring Place Mission School on/in January 16, 1816, and then Brainerd Mission in/on February 22, 1819.

JAMES ADAIR: The "History of the Adair Family" lists Walter Scott Adair as the only child of Edward Adair and Betsy Scott; however below is transcribed an application by Betsy Scott for her son, James Adair.

Col Morgan, Jr's Reg't, Cherokee Indians, War of 1812, Card #39026986#7003, Adair, James; Know all men by these present that I, Betsey Scot of the CherokeeNation, have this day nominated and appointed Charles Hicks of said nation my true and lawfull attorney for me, and in my name to ask, demand and recieve of Col. Return J Miegs or the proper authority, such sum or sums of money as is due my son James Adair, deceased, for his services to the United States, for a tour of duty performed against the hostile Creeks under the command of Captain David McNair of said nation. Commencing the 7th October 1813 and ending the 6th Jany 1814 as the above [do] charge will appear.

I also empower my said attorney to receipt for all moneys for me and to my use, and to act and to do all things necessary on the [premise] in as full and ample manner as I myself could do were I personally present in witness whereof I have here unto set my hand and seal, on Chickamagie, this thirteenth day of July ANNO DOMINI 1816-

her Betsey X Scott mark for James Adair, Deceased

Test. William Murdock

Education: Bet. 1806 - 1807, Gideon Blackburn's School (age 13) Military service: Bet. January 11 - February 10, 1814, under Charles Hicks Moravian Journals: February 19, 1814, James Adair, Peggy [Scott] Crutchfield's nephew, has died RG75, E545 Reg of BLW: October 28, 1857, BLW# 285654 by Nancy (widow)

Sources

1. ↑ Crews & Starbuck, eds. Records of the Moravians Among the Cherokees. Cherokee Heritage Press, Tahlequah, OK. Vol. 3, pp. 1427-1429
2. ↑ Starr, Emmet. History of the Cherokee Indians. Oklahoma Yesterday Publications edition, Tulsa, OK. 1979. p. 419. Digitized edition at Starr
3. ↑ Hampton, David K. and Baker, Jack D., eds. Old Cherokee Families Notes of Dr. Emmet Starr. Baker Publishing Co., Oklahoma City, OK. 1987. Vol. 1, Note B990, p. 88
4. ↑ McClinton, Rowena, ed. The Moravian Springplace Mission to the Cherokees. University of Nebraska Press, Lincoln, NE. 2007. Vol. 2, p. 8, March, 1814 "Betsy Scott came to us in great torment because her son Jim Adair was gravely ill."
5. ↑ Starr, Emmet. History p. 403.
6. ↑ Starr, Emmet. History, p. 419
7. ↑ Starr, Emmet. History, p. 419.
8. ↑ Crews & Starbuck, eds. Moravians, Jan. 19, 1811, Vol. 4, p. 1528, "Our Peggy has decided to keep with her the son of her sister Betsy,... named Charles Vogt (his father is a German from South Carolina). "
9. ↑ McClinton, Rowena, ed. Moravian Mission, Catalogue of Scholars, Vol 2, p. 451, "son of Pleasant Rose and Betsy Scott, enterered Jan. 16, 1816 at age nine."
10. ↑ McClintock, Moravian Mission, Vol. 2, p. 345
11. ↑ Crews & Starbuck, Moravians, Vol. 3, p. 1429
12. ↑ Hampton, David K. and Baker, Jack D., eds. Old Cherokee Families, Vol. 1, Note B990, p. 88
James Hicks Book "Cherokee Lineages"
See also
https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0014...

Source: The WikiTree Native American Project @ https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Scott-21681
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From wives of chief james vann by jerry l. clark @ Genealogy.com, “ gathered from Dr. Emmet Starr's HISTORY OF THE CHEROKEE INDIANS and his unpublished notes, claims (by Polly Scott) submitted to the Bureau of Indian Affairs, correspondence of the Cherokee Agency in Tennessee, records of the Presbyterian Brainerd mission (Chickamauga, TN), diaries of the Moravians, and list of students (with names of parents) at the Spring Place school:”

Betsey [Elizabeth] Scott (1/4 blood?) was daughter of Walter Scott (white, British Agt. to Cherokees) and Sarah Hicks (sister of Principal Chief Charles Renatus Hicks).Betsey had 7 husbands:
1) Edward Adair, Sr. (white, his brother John Adair, m. Gahoga Foster)
a) Edward Adair, Jr.
b) James Adair
c) Walter Scott Adair ["Red Watt"] (later a Cherokee Supreme Court justice)
2) James Vann
a) Delilah Amelia Vann m. Capt. David McNair (white)(also administrator of Vann's estate)
1798-1838
3) Edward Springston (son of white Indian trader William Springston?)
a) Jennie Springston m. Joseph ["Rich Joe"] Vann / Mitchell
b) Edley Springston m. Elizabeth Foreman
4) William Burgess (white)
a) William Burgess, Jr. m. Mary Vann (dau. of John Oowanna Vann)
5) John Shepherd (white)
a) Jack Shepherd m. Sally McDonald / Ruth Falling (niece of James Vann)
6) Pleasant Rose (white)
a) Tilgman Rose
7) ________ Vogt (brickmaker who helped build James Vann's house "Diamond Hill")
a) Charles Vogt

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Elizabeth (Betsy) “Shepherd Knee” Rose's Timeline

1769
February 5, 1769
Spring Place, Murray County, GA, United States
1789
June 30, 1789
Spring Place, Murray County, GA, United States
1789
1791
January 28, 1791
CNE, Georgia, USA
1791
1793
1793
1793
1794
1794