Feorena "Florence" Forster

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Frances Wharton

• (b abt. 1515 - d abt. 1557)

Biography

Frances Wharton was still married to her first husband, Sir Thomas Curwen in 1540, and probably had her only son by him around that time.[4]

Note that as far as dating her marriages, Thomas Forster VI's will is the linchpin to cut through conflicting sources, because it's dated 04 April 1589, showing that she was not a widow when she married Curwen (d. abt. 1543), as his second wife.

Frances had her eldest son by Thomas Forster VI around 1549. Cuthbert is the second ... so he was probably born c. 1550.

In total, Frances Wharton is said to have had 4 children -- 2 sons and 2 daughters -- by Thomas Forster VI, who also had 4 illegitimate sons by unknown women/woman. They are mentioned in his will, as well as his brother Reginald's.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wharton-142

Thomas Curwen (b c. 1494 - d ante 08 Nov 1543), son of Christopher Curwen m. (by dispensation on 3 Aug 1492) Margaret Bellingham, married 2nd to Frances, dau. of Thomas Wharton (d. 1520) and Agnes "Margaret" Warcopp. She remarried Thomas Forster of Edderstone (c. 1520 - d. 1589).

Curwen of Workington - m.1 Thomas Curwen (d. abt. 1544

1. Thomas[14]
2. (disputed) Mabel - born about 1541.[15] m. William Tweedy.[4]
3. Agnes - born about 1543

Forster of Adderstone - m.2 (btw 1544/8) Thomas Forster (b. ante 1520 - d. abt 1589). Issue: 2 sons; 2 dau.[22][7][2]

children

Thomas Forster (b.1549 - d. 1587 d.v.p).[1][8]
m. Isabell Brewster (Father: John Brewster of Lucker[2]
Cuthbert Forster
m. Elizabeth Bradford (Father: Thomas Bradford)[2]
(dau) _____.[23]
(dau) _____[24]

Disputed origins

Marshall (1878) and Pierce (1899), make Frances the daughter of Thomas, 1st Lord Wharton and Eleanor Stapleton (d. 1561), but it seems other sources in favor of the baron as her brother outweigh their opinion.

Parents according to Nicholson, et. al.,1777, p. 559; James, 1965; and Collingwood, 1902

• Father: Thomas Wharton (parents: Henry Wharton and Alice, dau. of Sir John Conyers of Hornby).[6]
• Mother: Agnes, dau. of Reginald Warcop of Smerdale.

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” makes Frances the dau. of Thomas, 1st Lord Wharton and Eleanor Stapleton (d. 1561)... but the evidence doesn't stack up; note that Pierce calls Frances "Feorina"... but the 1st Lord had no daughter by either of these names.”

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Wharton is NOT the father of Frances, who married Thomas Forster of Etherstone. He is her brother. Their parents are the same: Thomas Wharton and Agnes Warcop.[11]

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Supporting data

• 'Feorina WHARTON
• 'Born: ABT 1525, Wharton & Nateby, York, England
• Father: Thomas WHARTON (1° B. Wharton)
• Mother: Eleanor STAPLETON
• 'Married 1: Thomas CURWEN of Workington (Sir) ABT 1537
• Children:
  • 1. Thomas CURWEN (b. ABT 1539)
  • 2. Mabel CURWEN (b. ABT 1541)
  • 3. Agnes CURWEN (b. ABT 1543)
• 'Married 2: Thomas FORSTER (Sir Sheriff of Northumberland) (son of Sir Thomas Forster, Knight, and Dorothy Ogle) ABT 1549, Buckton, co. Northumberland, England
• Children:
  • 4. Cuthbert FORSTER
  • 5. Thomas FORSTER (Sir) (b. ABT 1552)
• http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/WHARTON.htm#Feorina WHARTON
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• 'Florence Wharton1
• F, #234214
• Last Edited=14 Jun 2007
• ' Florence Wharton is the daughter of Thomas Wharton, 1st Baron Wharton.1 She married Thomas Forster, son of Sir Thomas Forster and Dorothy Ogle.1
• ' Her married name became Forster.1
• 'Child of Florence Wharton and Thomas Forster
  • 1.Ralph Forster+1 b. 1552, d. 1616
• Citations
• 1.[S21] L. G. Pine, The New Extinct Peerage 1884-1971: Containing Extinct, Abeyant, Dormant and Suspended Peerages With Genealogies and Arms (London, U.K.: Heraldry Today, 1972), page 128. Hereinafter cited as The New Extinct Peerage.
• http://thepeerage.com/p23422.htm#i234214
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• 'The Forsters of Adderstone and Bamburgh
• http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:5LguL2f_TywJ:theforsterfa...
• 10. Sir Thomas Forster IV of Etherstone (Thomas Forster III of Etherstone, Thomas Forster II of Etherstone, Thomas Forster I of Etherstone) was born in 1466 and died in 1520 in England
• Born at Adderstone, he married Dorothy, the 6th daughter of Robert, Lord Ogle, and he was created Marshall of Berwick-on-Tweed by King Henry VIII. Whilst there he was given command of a troop of sixty cavalrymen just before the Battle of Flodden Field in 1513, a great battle in which he and his troops played a valiant part. He was the father of eight children.
• He was described at that time as “The Chief of one of the most numerous Border Clans” and, quite apart from its humorous inference regarding his prolifically fecund father and grandfather, it appears to have been an actual fact. His eldest son became the next Thomas. But his younger son, John, was to become a notorious figure on the Border Marches. Whilst John was born an Adderstone Forster, he also heads up the Bamburgh list as Sir John Forster of Bamburgh. (GF) Will dated 3 March 1526 (BP)
  • (GF) has his birth and death date as 1430 - 1520
  • (BP) states his wife was a daughter of Ralph Ogle and sister of Robert, 4th Lord Ogle
  • (JF) states his wife was a daughter of Cuthbert, Lord Ogle of Ogle in Northumberland
• Thomas married Dorothy Ogle daughter of Lord Ogle.
• They had the following children:
  • ' 24. Thomas Forster V of Adderstone (Thomas Forster IV of Etherstone, Thomas Forster III of Etherstone, Thomas Forster II of Etherstone, Thomas Forster I of Etherstone) was born in 1498 and died in 1589 in England. When he reached his 20s, Thomas V married Florence, sister of Lord Wharton, and they had four children. He was appointed Sheriff of Northumberland by Henry VIII. This enabled him to wield great power in helping to keep the peace for a while. (GF)
    • (GF) has his birth and death dates as 1468 - 1550. (JF) has his will dated 14 April, 1589.
    • (JoeF) states he was born in 1498, married in 1548 and died 1589.
  • 'Thomas married Florence Wharton.
  • They had the following children:
    • 40. M i. Sir Thomas Forster VI of Adderstone was born in 1549 and died in 1587
    • 41. F ii. Margaret Forster. Margaret married Nicholas Ridley
    • 42. F iii. Barbara Forster. Barbara married Robert Rodham of Rodham son of John Rodham of Rodham Northumberland.
    • 43. M iv. Cuthbert Forster of Brunton was born in 1551.
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• 1 FEORENA WHARTON b. 1525
• SIR THOMAS II FOSTER b. 1524 d. 1589
  • 2 CUTHBERT FOSTER b. 1550 d. 1589
  • ELIZABETH BRADFORD
    • 3 THOMAS III FOSTER b. 1570 d. Nov 24 1638
    • ABIGAIL WIMES b. 1573
      • 4 RICHARD FOSTER b. 1593
      • PATIENCE BIGGE b. Jun 05 1588 d. May 17 1665
        • 5 MARY FOSTER b. 1625
        • WILLIAM BUTLER GRAY b. 1616 d. Sep 09 1673
• http://michaelzacharys.familytreeguide.com/descend.php?personID=I56...
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• 'The history and topography of the counties of Cumberland and Westmoreland, comprising their ancient and modern history, a general view of their physical character, trade, commerce, manufactures, agricultural condition, statistics (1860)
• http://www.archive.org/details/historytopogra00whel
• http://www.archive.org/stream/historytopogra00whel#page/747/mode/1up
  • Whartons of Wharton.
• HENRY WHARTON, who married Alice, daughter of Sir John Conyers, Knt., of Hornby, and had issue,
  • THOMAS, who married Agnes, daughter of Reginald Warcop, of Smardale, and by her had issue,
    • I. THOMAS, his heir.
    • II. Christopher.
    • I. Joan, married to John Fulthorp, of Hipswell.
    • ' II. Florence, married to Thomas Forster, of Ederston.
  • He was succeeded by his eldest son,
    • Sir THOMAS WHARTON, Knt., who, in consequence of his victory over the Scots at Sollom Moss, was created a baron by Henry VIII. Sir Thomas was twice married. By his first wife, Eleanor, daughter of Sir Bryan Stapleton, Knt., of Wighill, he had issue, besides two other children,
      • I. THOMAS, his heir.
      • II. Sir Henry Wharton, Knt, who married Joan, daughter of Thomas Maliverer, of Allerton.
      • I. Agnes, married to Sir Richard Musgrave, Knt.
      • II. Joan, married to William Penningion.
    • By his second wife, Anne, daughter of George Earl of Shrewsbury, he had no issue.
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