Henry, 3rd Earl of Atholl

Henry, 3rd Earl of Atholl

• Son of Malcom, 2nd Earl of Atholl

Project MedLands, SCOTTISH Nobility

HENRY (-before Jan 1211). The Liber Vitæ of Durham lists (in order) "Malcolmus filius Mal. et comes Athodlie, Hextilda filia Ucthredi uxor eius, Simon filius eius, Henricus filius eius, Dunecanus frater eius, Bedoch soror eius, Kelethaoni filius eius, Cristina soror eius, Margareta soror eius, Constantinus nepos eius…"[175]. "Malcolmus comes Atholie…sponsa mea E. comitissa" donated "ecclesiam de Molin" to Dunfermline monastery by undated charter witnessed by "…H filio meo…"[176]. "Malcolmi comitis Atholie" donated property to Cupar abbey by undated charter, witnessed by "Henrico filio comitis, Malcolmo et Dunecano fratribus eius…"[177]. "Malcolmus comes de Athoil" donated "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Dunecano comite de Fif, Hextilda comitissa sponsa mea…Henrico et Dunecano filiis meis…"[178]. He succeeded his father in [1190] as Earl of Atholl. "Henricus comes de Hathodi" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Comitissa Margareta sponsa mea, Alexandro de Setona, Malisio iudice, Colino nepote meo…"[179]. Alexander II King of Scotland confirmed donations to St Andrew’s priory, including the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" by "Malcolmi comitis de Hathoil et ex confirmacione Henrici filii sui", by undated charter, probably dated to the start of his reign[180]. m MARGARET, daughter of --- (-after 9 Aug 1232). "Henricus comes de Hathodi" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Comitissa Margareta sponsa mea, Alexandro de Setona, Malisio iudice, Colino nepote meo…"[181]. Balfour Paul suggests that she may have been a member of the Comyn family because "Walter Comyn Earl of Menteith took an interest in her affairs after Earl Henry’s death"[182]. He also cites John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) which describes "heres de Buchan et Johannes Ruffus nepos eius" [referring to Alexander Comyn heir of Buchan and John Comyn "the Red") as "cognati comitis Atholiæ"[183]. "Walterus Cumyn comes de Menteith et Margaretta comitissa uxor comitis Henrici…" donated property to Cupar abbey by charter dated 9 Aug 1232 "coram nobis Isabell comitissa, heres legittima Atholiæ…post obitum domini sui Thomæ comitis de Galawayea"[184]. Mistress (1): ---. The name of Henry’s mistress is not known.

Earl Henry & his wife MARGARET had two children:

• a) ISABEL (-before 1242). She succeeded her father in [1210] as Ctss of Atholl suo iure. "Thomas de Galway comes de Athol et Isabel uxor eius comitissa Atholie" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Molin" to Dunfermline monastery by undated charter[185]. "Willelmi Olifard" donated property to Cupar abbey by undated charter, with the consent of "domini mei Thomæ comitis Atholiæ et Isabellæ sponsæ suæ"[186]. "Walterus Cumyn comes de Menteith et Margaretta comitissa uxor comitis Henrici…" donated property to Cupar abbey by charter dated 9 Aug 1232 "coram nobis Isabell comitissa, heres legittima Atholiæ…post obitum domini sui Thomæ comitis de Galawayea"[187]. Her possible second marriage is discussed by Noel Paton[188]. m [firstly] (before Jan 1211) THOMAS of Galloway, son of ROLAND Lord of Galloway & his wife Elena de Moreville (-1231). Earl of Atholl de iure uxoris. m secondly ([1231/33]%29 [as his first wife,] ALAN Durward, son of THOMAS de Lundie & his wife --- (-[1268/75], bur Cuprose). He was designated Earl of Atholl in 1233 and 1235, but may have held the earldom in wardship for his supposed stepson[189]. "…A hostiar comite Athol…" witnessed the charter dated 5 Jan 1234 under which Alexander II King of Scotland confirmed "terram…de Kalentyr" to Holyrood abbey[190].]
• b) FERNELITH (-before 1254[191]). Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the Chronicle of Melrose which states that "David de Hastings…in right of his wife who was aunt by the mother’s side of the murdered youth" succeeded as earl of Atholl after the death of Patrick of Galloway[192]. She succeeded her nephew in 1242 as Ctss of Atholl suo iure. The earldom of Atholl passed to her daughter on her death. "Nessi medici domini regis" donated "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey, for the souls of "Domini David de Hasting comitis Atholiæ et Forflisæ sponsæ suæ" who granted me the land in question, by undated charter[193]. m (before 1242) DAVID de Hastings, son of JOHN de Hastings & his wife --- . Earl of Atholl de iure uxoris. Balfour Paul names "John of Hasting who…apparently…held the lands of Dun in Forfarshire and was a frequent witness to the charters by King William the Lion to the monks of Aberbrothoc and to those of Cupar Angus…" as father of David Hastings[194]. He was one of the guarantors of the peace with Henry III King of England in 1244[195].

David Hastings & his wife had one child:

• i) ADA Hastings Balfour Paul says that Ada "is said to have married John of Strathbogie, son of David of Strathbogie…third son of Duncan sixth Earl of Fife…there is no proof of this statement, but it is rendered probable by the fact that the later Earls of Atholl designed themselves as of Strathbogie, and the evidence of seals"[196]. She succeeded as Ctss of Atholl, suo iure. m JOHN of Strathbogie, son of DAVID of Fife & his wife --- (-[1260]). He succeeded as Earl of Atholl, de iure uxoris.

Henry had one illegitimate child by Mistress (1):

• c) CONAN (-after 1211). "Conanus filius Henricus quondam comitis de Athoyle" donated property "de bosco meo Tulyhen" to Lindores Abbey, for the soul of "uxoris mee et puerorum meorum", by undated charter, dated to after 1211, witnessed by "Dominis Colino de Lundyn, Radulfo de Fefwerel, militibus, Johanne de Hastinges, Ewyn filio meo, Hath filio Gilbrid genero meo…"[197]. Conan must have been illegitimate as he did not succeed to the earldom on the death of his father. "Cumingi filii Henrici comitis Atholiæ" donated "bosci mei, de toto Glenherthy et de Tolikyne" to Cupar abbey by undated charter[198]. m ---.

The name of Conan’s wife is not known. Conan & his wife had two children:

• i) EWEN . "Conanus filius Henricus quondam comitis de Athoyle" donated property "de bosco meo Tulyhen" to Lindores Abbey, for the soul of "uxoris mee et puerorum meorum", by undated charter, dated to after 1211, witnessed by "...Ewyn filio meo, Hath filio Gilbrid genero meo…"[199]. "Eugenius filius Cumingi filius Henrici comitis Atholiæ" confirmed his father’s donation to Cupar abbey by undated charter[200]. m MARY, daughter of CONVALL of Tullibardine & his wife ---. "Maria relicta quondam Eugenii filii Coning" complained about the interference by "dominum Willelmum de Moravia militem filium domini Malcolmi de Moravia militis…dominam Adam sponsam suam neptem meam" in "ville de Tulybardin" by undated charter[201]. According to Balfour Paul, Mary was "daughter and co-heiress of Convall, son of Duncan, Laird of Tullibardine", but he cites no primary source apart from the charter just quoted which does not name her father[202]. However, other related charters in the Liber Insule Missarum refer to donations by (her presumed sister) "Muriela quondam filia Coneuall filii Duncani" and her grandson "domino Willelmo de Moravia militi filio domini Malcolmi de Moravia" (see Chapter 6.B of the present document)[203].

ii) daughter . "Conanus filius Henricus quondam comitis de Athoyle" donated property "de bosco meo Tulyhen" to Lindores Abbey, for the soul of "uxoris mee et puerorum meorum", by undated charter, dated to after 1211, witnessed by "...Ewyn filio meo, Hath filio Gilbrid genero meo…"[204]. m HETH MacGilbride, son of GILBRIDE & his wife ---.

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• Henry, 3rd Earl of Athol1
• M, #12170, d. before 1211
• Father Malcolm, 2nd Earl of Athol2 d. b 24 Oct 1198
• Mother Hexilda of Tynedale3 d. a 1182
• Henry, 3rd Earl of Athol married Margaret Comyn? Henry, 3rd Earl of Athol died before 1211.
• Family Margaret Comyn?
• Children
  • Forflissa (Forueleth) of Atholl+
  • Isabel of Atholl+4
  • Conan de Atholl, 1st Laird of Glenerochie+3
• Citations
• 1.[S3499] Unknown author, Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 2331.
• 2.[S11563] The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 417.
• 3.[S11620] The Douglas Archives.
• 4.[S11563] The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 418-422.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p405.htm#i... __________________
• Henry, 3rd Earl of Atholl1
• M, #109134, d. before January 1210/11
• Last Edited=29 Jan 2013
• Henry, 3rd Earl of Atholl was the son of Malcolm, 2nd Earl of Atholl and Hextilda (?).1 He married Margaret (?).1 He died in January 1210, without surviving male issue just prior to /11.2 He died before January 1210/11, without surviving male issue.1
• He was also known as Henry Strabolgi. He succeeded to the title of 3rd Earl of Atholl [S., c. 1115] circa 1190.1 He was Commander expdn against Godfrey MacDonald Mhic William, then in rebellion against WILLIAM THE LION , confirmed grant of Ch of Dull to St Andrews in 1211.3
• Children of Henry, 3rd Earl of Atholl and Margaret (?)
  • 1.Constantine (?)+3
  • 2.Conan (?)+3
  • 3.Isabel, Countess of Atholl+1 b. b 1195, d. b 25 Sep 1237
  • 4.Fernelith, Countess of Atholl+3 b. a 1195
  • 5.Fernelith, Countess of Atholl+1 b. a 1195
• Citations
• 1.[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 305. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
• 2.[S37] Volume 3, page 3758. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
• 3.[S37] See. [S37]
• From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p10914.htm#i109134 __________________
• William Comyn was one of four sons (and three daughters) of Richard Comyn, Justiciar of Lothian and Hextilda of Tynedale. He was born in Scotland, in Altyre, Moray in 1163 and died in Buchan in 1233 .... etc.
• William (is believed to have) had six children through his first wife Sarah Fitzhugh and eight through Marjory, Countess of Buchan. The two branches would be associated with the Lordship of Badenoch through his first wife and the Earldom of Buchan through the second. For the historian Alan Young, William's life, and particularly his marriage to the Countess of Buchan, marks the beginning of the "Comyn century".
• NB. Children are ranked according to either accounts showing a specific rank in the order of Williams children's birth or according to the earliest available date the child was thought to have been born.
  • father Richard Comyn (b.c.1115-1123 d.c.1179); mother Hextilda of Tynedale (aka. Hextilda FitzUchtred or Hextilda FitzWaldeve) (b.1112-1122 d.c. 1149-1189). Hextilda's first husband was Malcolm, 2nd Earl of Atholl, making their son Henry, 3rd Earl of Atholl, William Comyn's half-brother.
• From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Comyn,_Lord_of_Badenoch __________________
• Alexander II (Mediaeval Gaelic: Alaxandair mac Uilliam; Modern Gaelic: Alasdair mac Uilleim) (24 August 1198 – 6 July 1249) was King of Scots from 1214 to his death. .... etc.
• Wives
• 1. Joan of England, (22 July 1210 – 4 March 1238), was the eldest legitimate daughter and third child of John of England and Isabella of Angoulême. She and Alexander II married on 21 June 1221, at York Minster. Alexander was 23. Joan was 11. They had no children. Joan died in Essex in 1238, and was buried at Tarant Crawford Abbey in Dorset.
• 2. Isabella Atholl, (1190-1236), was born to Sir Henry 3rd Earl of Atholl and Lady M Comyn, Countess of Atholl. She and Alexander had at least one daughter, Dernell Dunkeld, (1215-1238). She may also be the mother of Marjory of Scotland.[3]
• 3. Marie de Coucy, who became mother of Alexander III of Scotland
• From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_II_of_Scotland ______________________________
• The Mormaer or Earl of Atholl was the title of the holder of a medieval comital lordship straddling the highland province of Atholl (Ath Fodhla), now in northern Perthshire. Atholl is a special Mormaerdom, because a King of Atholl is reported from the Pictish period. The only other two Pictish kingdoms to be known from contemporary sources are Fortriu and Circinn. Indeed, the early thirteenth century document known to modern scholars as the de Situ Albanie repeats the claim that Atholl was an ancient Pictish kingdom. In the eleventh century, the famous Crínán of Dunkeld may have performed the role of Mormaer. .... etc.
• Early Mormaers/Earls of Atholl
  • Dubdon (fl. 960s)
  • Duncan II MacDonachadh 970s - 1010
  • Crínán? (d. 1045)
  • ?
  • Máel Muire (fl. 1130s)
  • Matad, Earl of Atholl (d. 1151x1161)
  • Máel Coluim, Earl of Atholl (d. 1190s)
  • Henry, Earl of Atholl (d. 1211)
  • Isabella, Countess of Atholl (d. ?)
    • m. Thomas of Galloway (d. 1232)
    • m. (?) Alan Durward
  • .... etc.
• From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Atholl __________________