Hugo Pantulf, 4th feudal baron of Wem

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Ivo & his [first] wife had three children: 1. HUGH Pantulf (-before 28 Dec 1224). Eyton records that Hugh Pantulf confirmed his father’s donation to Shrewsbury abbey, with his wife Christiana, by charter dated to the early 13th century, witnessed by "Robert Corbet and his son Robert, Ivo Pantulf…"[36]. Sheriff of Shropshire 1179-1189. A charter, dated to the end of King Henry II’s reign, records the sale of "terram…de Wogheresforlong et de Dorfaut" (presumably dated to [1176/79]), in the presence of "Hugone Pantun, Hamelino fratre eius, Bricio fratre eius", its later donation to Haughmond abbey and a subsequent dispute, witnessed by "…Hugone Panton tunc vicecomitis…"[37]. "Herveius Bagot" reached agreement with "Thomam de Erdinton", including releasing the latter from marrying "filiæ primogenitæ nostræ Hawisiæ, vel alterius filiæ nostræ, vel tertiæ", with the consent of "dominæ Milisandæ uxoris meæ", by charter dated to [1197], witnessed by "Willelmo filio Alani, Hugone Pantolfe, Roberto Corbet, Johanne Extraneo, Radulfo Basset…William Bagot…"[38].

m (before [3 Mar/24 Jun] 1170) CHRISTIANA, daughter of WILLIAM FitzAlan & his [first/second] wife [Christiana ---/Isabel de Say]. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by reading several documents together: firstly, under a charter dated [3 Mar/24 Jun] 1170, Henry II King of England authorised deduction from the FitzAlan estates of revenue from the manor of Badminton "which the king had assigned as the marriage portion of William fitz Alan’s daughter"; secondly, Hugh Pantulf donated his rights in the church of Badminton to Lilleshall abbey by charter dated to [1215/18]; thirdly, Hugh Pantulf names his wife "Christiana" in a donation to Shrewsbury abbey[39]. It is assumed that Christiana was William’s daughter by his first marriage because of her name, but this is not beyond all doubt.

Hugh & his wife had five children: a) WILLIAM [V] Pantulf of Wem (-[1232/4 Feb 1233]). "…William, Alan and Hugh, sons of Hugh Pantulf…" witnessed an undated charter under which Robert Corbet donated tithes to Shrewsbury abbey[40]. m (before Jan 1226) HAWISE, daughter of FULK FitzWarin [III] & his first wife Matilda le Vavasour. The Legend of Fulk Fitz Warin names "Hauwyse, qe pus fust dame de Wemme" as the first daughter of "Fouke" and his wife "dame Mahaud de Caus"[41]. William [V] & his wife had two children: i) MATILDA Pantulf (-[1286/92]). m firstly (before 1243) RALPH Le Botiler, son of --- (-3 Jul 1281). m secondly as his --- wife, WALTER de Hopton, son of --- (-1305). ii) ELIZABETH Pantulf .

b) IVO Pantulf . Eyton records that Hugh Pantulf confirmed his father’s donation to Shrewsbury abbey, with his wife Christiana, by charter dated to the early 13th century, witnessed by "Robert Corbet and his son Robert, Ivo Pantulf…"[42].

c) ALAN Pantulf . "…William, Alan and Hugh, sons of Hugh Pantulf…" witnessed an undated charter under which Robert Corbet donated tithes to Shrewsbury abbey[43].

d) HUGH Pantulf . "…William, Alan and Hugh, sons of Hugh Pantulf…" witnessed an undated charter under which Robert Corbet donated tithes to Shrewsbury abbey[44].

e) R--- Pantulf (-before 1 Nov 1203). An order dated 1 Nov 1203 records that King John appointed a new chaplain for "capella nostra de Bruges" previously held by "Ulger et deinde R. fil Hug Pantolf"[45].

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Skrevet: 25 Jul 2007 18:43:58 Tittel: Pantulf chronology (or Lesceline: what's in a name?)

The recent thread examining Iseult Pantulf's various marriages has shown how little seems to be known about the chronology of the early Pantulf family.

According to Keats-Rohan (Domesday Descendants, p 1059), Iseult's grandfather, William Pantulf, was the son of Ivo Pantulf and Alice de Verdun; he married Burga de Stuteville, with whom he founded a nunnery at Langley, "circa 1150". His three legitimate sons, William, Roger and Philip, were apparently named in a charter of 1166, so were born before the latter date.

The entry for Ivo Pantulf states that he succeeded his father "before c1137/1138" and died in 1175. By his first marriage, he had Hugh, Hamelin and Brice, and by his second marriage (to Alice de Verdun) he had William and Norman.

Hugh was his father's heir, inheriting the family's estate at Wem. He is the subject of an ODNB article, which states he married Christiana Fitzalan in 1170, and died in 1224.

These latter two dates seem to cast a question mark over the activities of William, apparently his younger brother (in fact, two other brothers seem to be between them). If Hugh married in 1170 and died in 1224, is it likely that his younger brother should have been married and founding priories by circa 1150?

I am also intrigued by the fact that Ivo Pantulf's apparent paternal grandmother, the wife of the first William Pantulf, was named Lesceline (see ODNB article on William). So far as I know, Lesceline is a rather unusual name. Ivo's second wife, Alice de Verdon, was the daughter of Norman de Verdun, whose wife was Lesceline, the daughter of Geoffrey de Clinton by his wife Lesceline [DD, pp 402-3]. This is strongly suggestive of an earlier connection between the Clintons and the Pantulfs, and perhaps calls into further question the traditional genealogy of the Pantulfs on consanguinity grounds.

Michael Andrews-Reading