Isabel Lumley

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The statement that the wife of Roger Lumley of Ludworth was Isabel Ratcliffe
is interesting. Leo's Genealogics database gives this wife for Roger, but
neither of the sources he cites for Roger (Paget and Burke's Extinct
Peerages) give Roger a wife, and no source is given for Isabel.

I'll have to double-check my Ratcliffe file when I get home, but I think the source for her marriage to Roger Lumley is either the Sir Richard Ratcliffe bio in the new Oxford DNB, or the Henry VII Relations pedigrees of about 1500-1505.

In addition
Leo gives a wife Isabelle [sic] Ratcliffe to Roger's uncle, another Roger,
citing in this case Cahiers de St. Louis.

Cahiers must have confused the two uncle-nephew Roger Lumleys, as Edith Milner did in her 1904 book 'Records of the Lumleys of Lumley Castle'. Isabel Ratcliffe would have been born at some point in the 1477-1485 range, and would not have been a mother until the 1500s - a chronology which works much better for the younger Roger Lumley.

Isabel Ratcliffe's elder half-brother Henry Boynton had married a Lumley heiress, and he likely helped arrange Isabel's marriage to a Lumley.

But a detailed Lumley pedigree in
Surtees' Durham, 2:163, gives no wives for either of the Rogers. Is there a
good source for this Isabel?

See above.

Also, pedigrees for both the Lumley and Trollope families indicate that the
Lumley daughter who mar. Thomas Trollope was Margaret, not Anne (who mar.
John Lambton).

I took the name 'Anne' from VCH Durham Vol. 3:

This Robert Hayton had a son William who married a certain Alice, probably of the family of Lumley of Ludworth. (fn. 102) On this marriage the quarter of Seaton Carew was settled. William Hayton apparently died childless, and the manor was reconveyed to trustees to hold for Alice during her life, with reversion to Roger Lumley of Ludworth. Alice married as her second husband Roger Booth, and after her death in 1548 it was found that the reversion of the quarter of Seaton Carew had been settled by Roger Lumley on the marriage of his daughter Anne with Thomas Trollope of Thornley (fn. 103) (q.v.). It was inherited by Thomas's son John Trollope, who in 1563 sold it to Bertram Anderson. (fn. 104)

Thomas Trollope's will is printed in 'Durham Wills' Vol. I, and his son John Trollope's will is printed in 'Durham Wills' Vol. II (both on my list to copy at my next Library visit), and the editors identify Thomas's first wife as Anne, daughter of Roger Lumley, in both instances. John Lambton's wife was Agnes Lumley, no doubt named for her maternal grandmother Agnes Scrope.