Jean de Charny

Jean de Charny was the Lord of Lirey in Burgundy and his wife was Margaret de Joinville. Jean de Joinville counted himself as a close friend of King Louis IX.

Family

“The Charny Genealogy.” Dorothy Crispino.” <PDF>. Page 19-20

Jean de Charny, son of Hugues and Mabile, living in 1314 (C), living in 1318 (A), mar. Marguerite de Joinville, dau. of Jean de Joinville, biographer of King Saint Louis, and Alix de Reynel (D 176). Jean accompanied the Duke of Burgundy in the wars in Flanders in 1304 (A, Pr). In 1315 he witnessed the will of Louis, Prince of Achaia and the Morea (P1 136). He is cited in documents of 1294, 1304, 1315, 1318 and was not living in 1323 (Pr 129). Anselme gives Jeanne de Frolois as Jean's second wife. However, now we know (Spectrum 32/33 p. 44) that it was Jean fils who mar. Jeanne de Frolois.

Jean and Marguerite had:

• 1. Isabeau (L), of legal age by 1319, maybe deceased by 1340. In 1328-1329, she held a fief from the king at Chastelleries d'Isles (L 408).
• 2. Dreux inherited Charny. Louis, Prince of Achaia and the Morea, King of Thessalonica, gave him for wife Agnes de Vostizia, along with her lands in the Morea, including the barony of Richolichi de Niveleto. In this passage, Dreux is referred to as "the brother of Geoffroy de Charny" (M-F). Dreux died between 1323-1325. In 1325 his two daughters, Isabelle and Guillemette, were under 7 years of age (W). The demesne passed to Guillemette. In 1344 she mar. Philibert de Jonvelle (C 127); their dau., Agnes, mar. 1) Guillaume de Vergy [their dau. Jeanne de Vergy, mar. Henri de Bauffremont]; 2) Philibert de Bauffremont (C 585).
• 3. Jean, in 1315 already mar. to Jeanne de Frolois (she d. 1342). At one time Jean and his sister Isabeau held a subfief from Regnaut de Rumilly (L 325). In 1346, he was seig. of Maraut (C 11), which then passed to Guy de Jaucourt, remaining in that family for three centuries. Jean and his wife left no known issue.
• 4. Geoffroy, seig. of Lirey, Savoisy, Montfort, etc., mar. 1) Jeanne de Toucy; 2) Jeanne de Vergy, dau. of Guillaume de Vergy, seig. of Mirabeau, and Agnes de Durnay (A).

Placing the progeny of Jean de Charny in this order is mere guesswork, based on a few dates. Dreux was the eldest son as he inherited Charny.

References

• http://www.dianasprain.net/2011/12/knight-on-pedestal-sir-geoffroi-...
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffroi_de_Charny Geoffroi de Charny (c. 1306 – 19 September 1356) was the third son of Jean de Charny, the lord of Charny (then a major Burgundian fortress), and Marguerite de Joinville, daughter of Jean de Joinville, the biographer and close friend of France’s King Louis IX. ….
• Charny's Career and Writings: The Current Understanding. Published online by Cambridge University Press: 26 March 2021. Ian Wilson and Nigel Bryant. <link> … Geoffroi's father Jean de Charny, lord of the Charny castle – now long demolished – that commanded the river Armançon south of Troyes, was a leading vassal of the dukes of Burgundy. Being a cadet branch of the lords of nearby Mont-Saint-Jean, whose heraldry comprised gules, trois escutcheons d’or, the Charny family had to be content with escutcheons of silver. Their forebear Hugues I de Mont-Saint-Jean, who had held the dynasty's lordship at the turn of the twelfth and thirteenth centuries, was the very first lay signatory to the founding of the abbey of Cîteaux, from which sprang the Cistercian monastic order. Thereafter successive generations of the Mont-Saint-Jeans and Charnys regularly supported the Cistercians and their related military arm the Knights Templar, both with funding and with manpower. The Templar Draper (also named Geoffroi) de Charny, famously burnt at the stake along with the Order's Grand Master Jacques de Molay in 1314, may well have belonged to the same branch of the family. Support for the Cistercian and Templar orders was notably shared by the families with whom the Mont-Saint-Jeans and Charnys inter-married, the expected reward being burial in a favoured Cistercian abbey.