Joan (?) Hudleston

This generation of the Huddlestons of Millom, Cumbria/Cumberland is at the center of disagreement of the four main published pedigrees of the family available widely on the internet. A collection of those and an analysis of how they are the same or different and based on what sources is on the WikiTree Huddleston Free Space Page.

At issue with John and "Joan Fitz-Hugh" is:

Did such a marriage ever occur?
Was the John Huddleston who married Joan/Jane Stapleton the same man as the one who married Joan Fitz-Hugh, or were they father and son (in that order)?
In any case, the son of John and Joan Fitz-Hugh (and/or Joan Stapleton) was another John Huddleston who married Clifford, Seymour and Prickley which is where all the various lineages once again agree.

Burke and several others say this John Huddleston died about 1513 (5 Henry VIII).
Claims for and Against this Man and his Fitz-Hugh Marriage

Clay's "Clays Extinct Northern Peerages" shows only 5 daughters of Henry Fitz-Hugh but as always, lack of proof is not proof of lack. Certainly not a vote in favor of this marriage.[1]

Cokayne's "Complete Peerage"[2] lists no children at all so cannot be considered for or against.

The WikiPedia article claiming that Henry Fitz-Hugh and Alice Neville had 6 daughters is sourced from Richardson's "Royal Ancestry" (see "See Also" section) but provides no details such as names other than for Elizabeth.

Nicolson in "History and Antiquities of...Westmorland & Cumberland"[3] credits this marriage simply as "daughter of Lord Fitz-Hugh" but says nothing more which matches exactly with the 1615 "Visitation of Cumberland" by St. George, Fetherston[4]

Burke's "Commoners of Great Britain...&c"[5] also credits this marriage and names her Joan. Burke seems to follow Nicolson finely and likely Nicolson was a main source for him, being published about 60 years prior.

"The History and Antiquities of Allerdale Ward...&c" by Samuel Jefferson[6] supports the marriage and names her specifically Joan Fitz-Hugh. Jefferson was also likely heavily influenced by Nicolson and possibly Burke.

Weighed against all this is the work by modern Huddleston researcher, Annette Hudleston Harwood (A.H.H.). Citing Burke's Landed Gentry Vol 11 (1969) and work done by cousin Christopher Roy Huddleston FSA seen at Genealogy.com she has provided a lineage which seeks to reconcile some of the conflicting pedigrees (other differences above this generation are detailed by the Visitation of Cumberland and by Wedgwood's "History of Parliament"[7])

A.H.H. compresses the husbands of Fitz-Hugh and Stapleton into a single generation "John Huddleston" and their son was then John of the three wives. She agrees with Nicolson et al that the father of "John who married Joan Stapleton" was "John who married Mary Fenwick" (at odds with some other lineages) but in the generation above that she seems to be unique in inserting a "Richard Huddleston" who married a "Joan Unknown". Current links to Annette Hudleston Harwood's postings include A.H.H. line of descent and A.H.H. line of descent restated by another researcher and A.H.H. followup for minor date corrections and posts by Annette Huddleston Harwood

Unfortunately some of the sources she mentions such as a 1495 Inquisition Post Mortem are not given in great detail in a public forum so it is hard to weigh her work at a distance.

Sources

↑ The extinct and dormant peerages of the northern counties of England [microform] by Clay, J. W. (John William), 1838-1918 Publication date 1913 p. 75
↑ The Complete Peerage (Edition 1, Volume 3) by [Cokayne, George Edward], 1825-1911. Publication date 1890 p. 365
↑ The history and antiquities of the countries of Westmorland and Cumberland by Nicolson, Joseph; Burn, Richard, 1709-1785; Nicolson, William, 1655-1727 Publication date 1777 Publisher London W. Strahan pp. 11-15
↑ The visitation of the county of Cumberland in the year 1615 by Saint-George, Richard, Sir, d. 1635; Fetherston, John, ed; College of Arms (Great Britain) Publication date 1872 p. 22
↑ A genealogical and heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, enjoying territorial possessions or high official rank, but uninvested with heritable honours. by Burke, John Publication date 1834 p. 584
↑ The History and Antiquities of Allerdale Ward, above Derwent, in the county of Cumberland: with Biographical Notices and Memoirs. by Jefferson, Samuel, 1809-1846 Publication date 1842 p. 157
↑ History Of Parliament (1439-1509) by Wedgwood Josiah C. Publication date 1936 p. 478
See Also

Royal Ancestry D. Richardson 2013 Vol. II p. 248 (this is the source cited by the WikiTree article claiming that Henry Fitz-Hugh and Alice Neveille had 6 daughters)
The well known but largely unsourced or poorly sourced "Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors" with contributions by Marlyn Lewis. Be extremely careful when using this information.