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Joan de Valoines

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Shabbington, Buckshire, England
Death: before November 12, 1312
Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, , England
Place of Burial: Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire, England
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Thomas de Valoines, of Shabbington and Joan de Clemdon
Wife of Sir Robert de Grey, of Rotherfield
Mother of Maud Matilda de Grey; Margaret De Grey FitzBernard; Sir John de Grey, 1st Baron of Rotherfield and Thomas de Grey

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About Joan de Valoines

Joan de Valoines, daughter of Thomas de Valoines, was born at of Shabbington, Buckinghamshire, England. She died before 12 November 1312.

married Sir Robert de Grey, son of Sir Walter de Grey and Isabel Dunston.2,3

Family Sir Robert de Grey d. b 27 May 1295

Children

  • Thomas de Grey+ d. b 27 May 1295
  • Margaret Grey+ d. b 2 Nov 1311
  • Sir John de Grey+4,2,3 b. c 1272, d. 17 Oct 1311
  • http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p503.htm#i...
    • [S3968] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. VI, p. 144; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 104, 120.
    • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 269-270.
    • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 272.
    • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 553-554.

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Douglas Richardson to soc.genealogy.medieval

4/21/07

Complete Peerage, 6 (1926): 144 (sub Grey of Rotherfield) includes an
account of the history of Sir Robert de Grey (died 1295), of Rotherfield, Somerton, and Hardwick, Oxfordshire. Sir Robert de Grey is the lineal ancestor of the Lords Grey of Rotherfield. Regarding his marriage, the following skimpy information is provided by Complete Peerage:

"He married Joan, daughter of Thomas de Valoines .... [Joan] his widow died before 12 Nov. 1312." END OF QUOTE.

Joan de Valoines, wife of Sir Robert de Grey, was actually the daughter and heiress of Thomas de Valoines, of Shabbington, Middle Claydon, and Bottle Claydon, Buckinghamshire, by his wife, Joan, as indicated in a post found in the newsgroup archives made by the ever helpful Kay Allen.

Further, there is an interesting charter issued by Joan de Valoines, widow of Sir Robert de Grey, which can be found in J. Delaville le Roulx, Cartulaire Général de L'Ordre des Hospitaliers de S. Jean de Jérusalem, 3 (1899): 765. This charter was unfortunately overlooked by Complete Peerage. There is also an abstract of a lawsuit involving Lady Joan de Grey found in R.H. Helmholz, Select Cases of Defamation to 1600 (Selden Soc. 101) (1985): 3-4. The lawsuit indicates that Lady Joan Gray [sic] sued Master Richard of St. Frideswide, Archdeacon of Buckingham, for defamation sometime about 1290.

As noted above, Kay Allen identified the wife of Thomas de Valoines as Joan, but no parentage was stated for her. Her identity as Joan de Clemdon, daughter of Geoffrey and Joan de Clemdon, is proven by a series of entries found in the published Oxfordshire Eyre, 1241 (Oxfordshire Rec. Soc. 56) (1989), edited by Janet Cooper. I've copied the pertinent items below.

pg. 9: "Oxon. Henry de Bulchegh essoins Reynold of Whitchurch (he has a wife, Alice) against Thomas de Valoynes and Joan his wife; (assize mort dancestor <land>); one month after Easter. Same day given to Reynold's wife Alice, by her attorney, in the Bench. New case.

pg. 22: "Oxon. Joan wife of Thomas de Valoynes appoints Thomas her husband her attorney against Reynold of Whitchurch; plea of land."

pg. 24: "Alice wife of Reynold of Whitchurch appoints Thomas of Aston her attorney against Thomas de Valoynes and Joan his wife; plea of land,"

pg. 99: "Assize of mort dancestor to declare whether Geoffrey de Clemdon, father of Joan wife of Thomas de Valoynes, was seised of 1/10 acre land in Bolney [in Harpsden] which Reynold of Whitchurch holds. He comes [blank in MS.]."

"The same assize to declare whether Joan de Clemdon, mother of Joan wife of the same Thomas, was seised of 18s. rent in Bolney [in Harpsden] of which Reynold and Alice his wife disseised them. They come and say that they cannot answer whether Alan of Farnham and Margery his wife their parceners. So they are to be summoned in Berkshire to be at Lambeth on Monday after Ascension day to answer them. The same day is given to the jurors in the Bench. Afterwards an agreement was reached, and Thomas gives 10s. for licence to agree, by surety of Reynold; and Reynold gives 10s. for the same by surety of Thomas." END OF QUOTE.

Geoffrey de Clemdon mentioned above is presumably the same person as Geoffrey "de Clendona," the nephew of Geoffrey de Quarrendon, who unsuccessfully claimed a member of the manor of Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire while William de Mandeville, son of Geoffrey Fitz Peter, was Earl of Essex, or roughly sometime in the period, 1216-1227 [Reference: VCH Buckingham, 3 (1925): 13].
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Lady Joan De Valoines Grey
BIRTH 1245
Buckinghamshire, England
DEATH 12 Nov 1312 (aged 66–67)
Rotherfield Greys, South Oxfordshire District, Oxfordshire, England
BURIAL
St. Nicholas' Churchyard
Rotherfield Greys, South Oxfordshire District, Oxfordshire, England
MEMORIAL ID 147361712

Birth: Abt 1245

Family Members
Spouse
Robert De Grey
1245–1295

Children
John De Grey
1271–1311

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Joan de Valoines's Timeline

1250
1250
Shabbington, Buckshire, England
1269
1269
of, Somerset, , England
1272
1272
Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England
1273
1273
Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire, England
1312
November 12, 1312
Age 62
Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, , England
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St Nicholas Churchyard, Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire, England (United Kingdom)