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About John Baker, of Aylesbury
- 'John BAKER1
- 'M, b. 1598, d. 25 April 1672
- Father Richard BAKER Sir b. 1568, d. 18 Feb 1644/45
- ' John BAKER was born in 1598 at England. He died on 25 April 1672 at Aylesbury, Buckingshire, England.
- Family
- Children
- John BAKER d. 1685
- Mary BAKER d. b 1721
- Sarah BAKER d. b 1698
- Citations
- 1.[S25] McCullough, Norma Baker. 1981. The Bakers of Sissinghurst and Other Relatives. Private printing.
- http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/soc/faculty/roy/Report16/p18.htm#i1252
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- When I first began researching the Baker and Yarnall families in the early 1980's, I came across the following notation in the Palmer-Trimble Genealogy(1): "The Baker Family claim descent from one Sir Richard Baker, b. 1568 at Sissinghurst, Kent, d. 1645 in the Fleet where he had taken shelter for poverty and where he wrote several historical, poetical, and miscellaneous articles."Although Gilbert Cope called this "questionable," he indicated that Sir Richard's wife was Margaret Mainwaring (2).
- According to the History of Chester County (3), John and Mary Baker of Edgmond, Shropshire, England, were the parents of the following children who all settled in Chester County, Pennsylvania in 1682:
- John, d. 3rd mo. (May) 1684\5
- Joseph, b. 1st mo. (March) 1, 1671\72, m. Mary Woodward
- Hannah, b. 1664, d. 1719, m. 8th mo. (Oct.) 4, 1686 Francis Yarnall
- Mary, m. 6th mo. (Aug.) 1686 William Coeburne
- Sarah, m. 5th mo. (July) 1687 Charles Whitacre
- Recently, several fellow Baker researchers corresponding via the Internet have tried to confirm the connection between the Quaker Bakers of Edgmond, Shropshire and the Bakers of Sissinghurst. Thanks primarily to the indefatigable efforts of Edward Coates Sinker of Bosbury, Herefordshire, England, a piece of evidence has come to light which lends credence to the Palmer-Trimble assertion.
- Burke's Landed Gentry (4) provides the following information: "Sir Richard Baker, M.P., of Middle Aston, Oxon [Oxfordshire], and St. Bride's, London, the history (who m. Margaret, dau. of Sir George Mainwaring [sic] of Ightfield, Salop [Shropshire], and d. in Fleet debtors' prison 18 Feb. 1644/5, bur. St. Bride's) son of John Baker, disinherited elder son of Rt Hon. Sir John Baker, of Sissinghurst, Kent (See Burke's Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies, Baker, Bt., of Sissinghurst)."
- Ed Sinker writes "note that Edgmond and Ightfield are only 15 miles apart." (5)
- While the short distance between Ightfield and Edgmond is not proof positive, Burke's information certainly brings the Sissinghurst, Co. Kent Bakers into closer physical proximity of John and Mary Baker of Edgmont, Shropshire, whose children settled in Pennsylvania in the 1680's. 'The Palmer-Trimble Genealogy indicates that Sir Richard Baker, "The Chronicler," and Margaret Mainwaring had a son Sir John Baker, born in 1598. The name of Sir John's wife has not yet been discovered, but they had at least two sons, John Baker, born 1621, died 4th mo. 25 1672 in Edgmond, Shropshire and Robert Baker (6), who died 6th mo. 1672 in Edgmond, Shropshire.'
- John Baker married Mary (maiden name unknown) and was the father of John (below), Mary, Hannah who married Francis Yarnall, Sarah, and Joseph Baker all of whom came to Pennsylvania.
- http://yarnall.org/Yarnall/Geneology/May97.html
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- From: Booboopies <Booboopies@aol.com>
- Subject: BAKER - PA 1684
- Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:59:51 EST
- I would like to thank Betty Blockus publicly for providing a significant piece of information which I hope will save lots of current and future BAKER researchers much time and anguish.
- For a very long time many of us who are descended from John, Joseph, Mary, Hannah, and Sarah BAKER who emigrated from Edgmond, Shropshire, England, and settled in Edgmont Twp., Chester Co., PA in 1684, have been trying desperately to put all the pieces together in order to prove descent from Sir Richard Baker (known as The Chronicler) and his wife Lady Margaret Mainwaring through their son 'John Baker who was born in 1598. There was considerable confusion as to whether this was the same John Baker who died February 25, 1672 in Edgmond or if John Baker who died February 25, 1672 was his son.' There has been an assumption by many that the five siblings were the children of one of these two men, and there has been considerable confusion, frustration, and angst among current researchers.
- Our first and most important clue should have been that Gilbert Cope believed the connection between the Edgmond Bakers and Sir Richard Baker of Ightfield, Shropshire, to be, in his words, "questionable."
- A few days ago, in response to my post on this family to the MID-MARCH list, Betty Blockus wrote to tell me that she has a copy of the will of Robert Baker who died in Edgmond, Shropshire in 1671. In this will he mentions his wife Mary AND his sons John and his wife Dorothy, as well as Joseph, Hannah, Sarah, and Mary and son John's daughter Rebeckah. [John Baker, who died in PA in 1686, had three others daughters after 1671, who also emigrated with their father (their mother having died in England)].
- Now, unless the will of John Baker who died in 1672 also mentioned these same people, it seems pretty clear that the parents of the Baker siblings who came to PA in 1684 were Robert and Mary (?) Baker of Edgmond, Shropshire, England, rather than John Baker. Any connection to Sir Richard Baker the Chronicler, a descendant of the Sissinghurst, Co. Kent Bakers, and the Mainwarings of Shropshire and Cheshire still remains to be explored.
- Betty, thanks for sharing this vital piece of information at just the right moment!
- Karen Mullian booboopies@aol.com
- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/QUAKER-ROOTS/1998-03/...
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John Baker, of Aylesbury's Timeline
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1598
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Edgmond, , Shropshire, England
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| 1621 |
1621
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England
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1621
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England
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| 1672 |
April 25, 1672
Age 74
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Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England, United Kingdom
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April 25, 1672
Age 74
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England, UK
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