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John Banks

Also Known As: "Baker"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Probably, Scotland (United Kingdom)
Death: May 05, 1683 (42-51)
Chelmsford, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, United States
Immediate Family:

Husband of Hannah Jenkins
Father of Hannah Tyler; Sarah Graves; Mary Powers and Hannah Susannah Baker

Managed by: Erin Ishimoticha
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Immediate Family

About John Banks

Another Scots Battle of Dunbar POW indentured to the Colonies http://scottishprisonersofwar.com/battle_of_dunbar_pows_america/

So birth better as circa 1635, Scotland


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Profile last modified 20 Nov 2020 | Created 15 Feb 2017

John (Banks) Baker (abt. 1640 - 1683)

John Baker formerly Banks aka Balke, Bauke, Baker, Banke

Born about 1640 [location unknown]

Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]

[sibling%28s%29 unknown]

Husband of Hannah (Jenkins) Blood — married 1665 (to 5 May 1683) in Lynn, Essex County, Massachusetts

Father of Sarah (Banks) Graves

Died 5 May 1683 in Chelmsford, Middlesex, Massachusetts

Biography

John's identity is in dispute. Please feel free to contribute sources and conclusions.

Children:

Hannah bo. 7 May 1666, Sarah bo. 30 Mar 1668 Mary bo. 7 Jan 1670

"Massachusetts, Births and Christenings, 1639-1915," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F458-HYM : accessed 10 Feb 2014), Sarah Banke, 30 Mar 1668.: Sarah Banke was born to John Banke and Hannah on March 30, 1668 in Chelmford, Middlesex, MA. In other sources the surname is Barke or Bauke. Remember that all records were written and they weren't always easy to read.

. Alternative Surname: Torrey: Bake, Baker, Bank, Bauk (Source: Clarence Almon Torrey, Torrey - New England Marriages Prior to 1700, (1985, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.).)

This Hannah Jenkins was the daughter of Joel Jenkins and Sarah Gilbert. I always check names of children to see if there are any identical names to grandparents, great-grandparents, aunts and uncles, etc. There is no Mary (John Bauke's and Hannah's children) in the Joel Jenkins / Sarah Gilbert lineage. However, the name Sarah would have come from her mother's mother. And the name Hannah... well, that was her mother's name.

One more piece of information could go into this. John Bauk / Banke is often considered to be been one of the Scottish soldiers captured at the Battle of Dunbar on September 5, 1650, and deported to New England on the "Unity" by Cromwell; he was in Saugus, Maine, from 1651 to 1656 or 57. This would explain why no records of his coming to New England or his lineage elsewhere have been found anywhere.

My evaluation: it's really hard to tell from this evidence. We have no birth record for John Bauk or Hannah Jenkins. We also have no marriage record. It's also clear that John went by a few different surnames (or was it just difficult to read handwriting?) But how do we get the name John Baker out of John Bauk if they were both the same man who married Hannah Jenkins?

Sarah Banke's records are well attested. She would have been 18 years old when she married. That makes sense for this place and time. One of her daughters was named Hannah, and that would fit into the naming pattern. The time lapses just work for John Bauk's wife being Hannah Jenkins. He died in May 1683, and Hannah Jenkins married Joseph Parker in November 1683 or 1984. That would give 5 months according to many records, or 1 1/2 years according to another set of vital statistics of Woburn. This often happened in those days - Hannah would have needed a father for her three little girls as quickly as possible. But then where does this record of Joseph Baker marrying Hannah Bauk in 1686 come from? This is most likely the daughter Hannah Bauk born in 1666. Some genealogies list a third sister named Hannah - I don't know what source it comes from.

Name

Name: John /Baker/ Source: #S287

User ID

User ID: 8CC28344A19E4EA589276794D953B705DA62 While processing relationships in the gedcom some additional information was found which may be relevant.

Could not parse date out of BEF 1683.

@F2056@ FAM Husband: @I2899@ Wife: @I2865@ Marriage: Date: BEF 1683 Place: Lynn, Essex County, Massachusetts Source: #S287 User ID: D0E45DB8A0B4402FAD4EE105553622AAC4FA

Sources

Source S287 Type: Web Site Author: Norris Taylor Title: Joel Jenkins of Malden, Mass. b. ca 1615 URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/jenkins/messages/2784/html Date: posted 3/4/2000 DATV 3/27/2004 http://ma-vitalrecords.org/MA/Middlesex/Chelmsford/Images/Chelmsfor...: John Graves of Hatfield and Sarah Bauke, married October 25 (written 25:8 br) 1686 in Chelmsford, MA.

http://ma-vitalrecords.org/MA/Middlesex/Woburn/MarriagesB.shtml: Hannah Bauk married Joseph Baker October 4 1686 in Woburn, MA.

"Massachusetts, Births and Christenings, 1639-1915," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F458-VZ7 : accessed 10 Feb 2014), John Bauke in entry for Mary Bauke, 07 Jan 1670. Mary Bauke was born to John Bauke and Hannah on January 7, 1670 in Chelmford, Middlesex, MA. This would be the aforementioned Sarah's sister.

"Massachusetts, Deaths and Burials, 1795-1910," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FHYJ-157 : accessed 10 Feb 2014), John Bauk, 05 May 1683.:John Bauk died on May 5, 1683 in Chelmsford, Middlesex, MA.

http://ma-vitalrecords.org/MA/Middlesex/Chelmsford/Images/Chelmsfor...: Hannah Banke born to John and Hannah May 7, 1666 in Chelmsford, MA (another sister of Sarah).

At http://genforum.genealogy.com/jenkins/messages/2784.html we find: 5 iv. Hannah Jenkins (Source: (1) C. Harold Floyd, NEHGR 66:268-273, 1912 - Joel Jenkins, 269., (2) Clarence Almon Torrey, Torrey - New England Marriages Prior to 1700, (1985, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.), Shows 3 husbands.), born Abt. 1646 in Braintree, Suffolk Co, Mass (Source: Clarence Almon Torrey, Torrey - New England Marriages Prior to 1700, (1985, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.), ?1646-.). She married (1) John Baker (Source: Clarence Almon Torrey, Torrey - New England Marriages Prior to 1700, (1985, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.).) Bef. 1683 in Near Lynn, Essex Co, Mass (Source: Clarence Almon Torrey, Torrey - New England Marriages Prior to 1700, (1985, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.).); born Abt. 1646; died Bef. 1683 in Prob Lynn, Essex Co, Mass. She married (2) Joseph Parker (Source: C. Harold Floyd, NEHGR 66:268-273, 1912 - Joel Jenkins, 269.) Nov 19, 1683 in Mass; born Abt. 1646 in of Groton, Mass; died Bef. 1696 in Chelmsford or Groton, Mass. She married (3) Robert Blood (Source: Clarence Almon Torrey, Torrey - New England Marriages Prior to 1700, (1985, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.).) 1696 in Mass (Source: Clarence Almon Torrey, Torrey - New England Marriages Prior to 1700, (1985, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.).); born Abt. 1646 in Mass.

Chelmsford Deaths: BALKE (Barke), John, 5: 5m: 1683. (p. 361)Vital Records of Chelmsford to the End of the Year 1849, The Essex Institute, Salem, 1912

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John Banks's Timeline

1636
1636
Probably, Scotland (United Kingdom)
1663
1663
Rowley, Essex County, Massachusetts, United States
1665
March 30, 1665
Middlesex, Chlemsford, Massachusetts, United States
1668
1668
Chelmsford, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, United States
1670
January 7, 1670
Littleton, Middlesex, Massachusetts
1683
May 5, 1683
Age 47
Chelmsford, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, United States