John Gilman

Biography

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gilman-72

John Gilman was born perhaps Hingham, Norfolk, England,[1] say 1595 (assuming he was about 14 years old when he began his apprenticeship),[2] died perhaps Hingham, after 23 November 1651 (date his "wyfe" was buried, Hingham), the son of Edward Gilman,[2] whose wife's name is unknown. (See Research Notes.)

In 1609, John Gilman was apprenticed to John Bubbyn of Deopham, Norfolk to learn his trade as a worsted weaver. His father was noted as being Edward Gilman of Hingham, a sherman (a sheep shearer or cloth trimmer). The full abstract of the indenture is:[2]

"Gilman, Gyllmyne, John: son of Edward of Hingham, Norf., sherman; appr. John Bubbyn of Deopham, Norf., worsted weaver, 1609, for 7 years, D.153."
He likely completed his apprenticeship in about 1616.

John Gilman married in Hingham, 1 October 1626, Ann(e) Gurney,[3] whose birth and parentage is unknown. Anne was buried Hingham, Norfolk, 23 November 1651.[4]

Family

Children of John and Anne (Gurney) Gilman,[5] the first two baptized at West Dereham which is quite a distance from Hingham (26 miles, by modern means),

1. Edward Gilman, baptized West Dereham, Norfolk, 26 October 1627.[6]
2. Frances Gilman, baptized West Dereham, 2 April 1629,[7] buried at Hingham, 2 May 1631.
3. Ann Gilman, baptized Hingham, 3 February 1631.
4. Rose Gilman, baptized Hingham, 18 June 1637.
5. John Gilman, baptized Hingham, 17 February 1638[9]. Emigrated to New England by 1658 when he resided Exeter, New Hampshire, with his cousins, the children of his uncle, Edward Gilman. He removed from Exeter to Piscataway, New Jersey; died at New Jersey, 14-25 October 1695. Was administrator of the estate of "his kinsman" Israel Folsom (1646-1677), otherwise the son of John and Mary (Gilman) Folsom. Davis refers the reader to Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire (John Gilman) for "his marriages, children and public service."
6. Charles Gilman, born Hingham, 12 May 1642. Emigrated to New England, first noticed at Exeter with his brother John and cousins, 1664. Removed to Piscataway, died there 1691/2. Here also, Davis refers the reader to Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire (Charles Gilman).

Research Notes

See also, Gilman Research

Torrey and bibliographic notes. Noted genealogist Clarence Almon Torrey FASG (1869-1962) was a descendant of Edward Gilman (m. ____ Unknown) by this son John Gilman (m. Anne Gurney). See Gary Boyd Roberts, "Notable Kin: Seven Genealogists: Ancestors of John Farmer, Jr., James Savage, H.F. Waters, Mary L. Holman, C.A. Torrey, Elizabeth French Bartlett, and G. A. Moriarity, Jr.," in NEXUS, 13 (1995):25 (in James Savage), 26 (in Clarence Almon Torrey); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors. For the Torrey entry, Roberts cites "Notebook labeled 'Ancestry,' carton labeled 'Torrey' (#10) in C. A. Torrey's mss. collection, SG TOR 5 (147) at NEHGS" and other works; none of the source titles specifically mention Gilman.

In the mid-1930s, then engaged in Gilman English research, Torrey wrote,[8] Edward^1 Gilman probably had a brother John who married at Hingham ... Anne Gurney, remarking about their sons John and Charles.

Torrey's article was shortly followed by entries for sons John and Charles in Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire, part 3 (1936), written by, among others, Walter Goodwin Davis. This account includes notice that the immigrant John Gilman was granted administration on the estate of "his kinsman" Israel Folsom (1646-1677), otherwise the son of John and Mary (Gilman) Folsum.

Not long after Torrey's death, Walter Goodwin Davis published a genealogy of the this Gilman line, The ancestry of Abel Lunt, 1769-1806, of Newbury, Massachusetts (Portland, Me. : Anthoensen Press, 1963), 153-160 (Gilman, of Exeter) at 158 digital images, Hathi Trust.

Parentage. A prior version of this profile included, (1) "From many well-sourced websites, there is a clear reasoning that the mother and father of John Gilman is unknown, we only have a marriage record to go by. The rest of the information is "suggested" due to location of the marriage." [9] (2) Edward Gilman "probably" had brother John, who m. Hingham 1 Oct 1626 Ann Gurney. [The qualifier probably presumably comes from the location in Hingham.] [10]

Birth. A prior version of this profile included, "Date of birth estimated at 1600 due to date of marriage, but a merged profile had 1595."

Death. Records to prove the death of John Gilman have not be located. One John Gilman was buried Gimston, Norfolk, 9 December 1653; Norfolk Record Office, PD 687/2, citing Parish Burials, FindMyPast.

A prior version of this profile reported his marriage ended in 1639, the date the will of a different John Gilman (Gilman-265) was proved.

Alternate Birth Date(s): c. 1597, 1591, 1598

John Gilman Birth: 2/17/1638 - Hingham, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom Death: 10/14/1695 - Cohansey, NJ, USA Parents : Ann Gilman and John Gilman Spouse : Elizabeth Gilman Children : Anne Gilman; Edward Gilman; Elizabeth Gilman; John Gilman; Joseph Gilman; Mary Gilman; Mercy Gilman and Sarah Gilman Siblings : Charles GILMAN and John GILMAN

References

1. Baptismal records for only the two youngest children of his father, Edward Gilman, have been located, both at Hingham, Norfolk, England; the Hingham parish registers do not begin until after 1600. None of the births of Edward's children were found in the Caston, Norfolk registers, which begin in 1538.
2. Winifred M. Rising & Percy Millican (compilers), An index of indentures of Norwich apprentices enrolled with the Norwich Assembly, Henry VII-George II, Publications of the Norfolk Record Society, vol. 29 ([Norwich]: Norfolk Record Society, 1959) p. 72.
3. Clarence Almon Torrey, "English Origin of Edward^1 Gilman" in The American Genealogist, 11 (1934):137-138, at 137; and 193-194; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors
4. Anne Gilman 1651 burial, Parish registers for Hingham; digital images, Family Search, FHL Digital Collection, DGS 4143430, image 833 of 2165.
5. Walter Goodwin Davis, The ancestry of Abel Lunt, 1769-1806, of Newbury, Massachusetts (Portland, Me. : Anthoensen Press, 1963), 153-160 (Gilman, of Exeter) at 158 digital images, Hathi Trust.
6. Edward Gilman 1627 baptism, General register of baptisms, marriages and burials, 1558-1708, West Dereham; digital images, FamilySearch, FHL Digital Collection, DGS 4115526, image 53 of 108; "Baptized - Edward Gilman, sone of John & Anne his wife ..."
7. Frances Gilman 1629 baptism, General register of baptisms, marriages and burials, 1558-1708, West Dereham; digital images, FamilySearch, FHL Digital Collection, DGS 4115526, image 55 of 108; "Baptized - Frances Gilman daughtr of John & Anne his wife ..."
8. Clarence Almon Torrey, "English Origin of Edward^1 Gilman" in The American Genealogist, 11 (1934):137-138, at 137; and 193-194; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors, includes, "The Gilman search in England, now in progress, may yield additional information ..."
9. http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/report/rr02/rr02_468.html
10. Clarence Almon Torrey, "English Origin of Edward^1 Gilman" in The American Genealogist, 11 (1934):137-138, at 137; and 193-194; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors See also:
11. Bonham, Howard E, Bonham and related family lines : a family genealogy from the Mayflower to the 1990s, (Bradenton, Florida: Genie Plus, 1996); digital copy at FamilySearch.
12. Ames, Constance Le Neve (Gilman), The story of the Gilmans and a Gilman genealogy of the descendants of Edward Gilman of Hingham, England, 1550-1950, (Yakima, Washington: Shields Rainier Printing Company, 1950), page 37.