JOHN LINDSAY, LORD MENMUIR

Update 12/28/2021: (some info different) Lindsay, John, Lord Menmuir (1552 -1598)
John Lindsay was born in 1552, the second son of David, 9th Earl of Crawford, and Catherine, daughter of Sir John Campbell of Lorn. He was educated at Paris and the University of Cambridge. He became Secretary of State for Scotland, and was made a Lord of Session as Lord Menmuir. He was one of the Octavians, or eight persons in charge of the royal finances. He married on 29 November 1581, Marion, daughter of Alexander Guthrie and widow of David Borthwick of Lockhill. He bought Balcarres from his stepson, and made it the family seat. After the death of his wife, he married, 7 February 1590, Jane Lauder, widow of Sir James Forrester of Corstorphine, and of John Campbell of Calder. He was the father of David Lindsay, 1st Lord Lindsay of Balcarres. He died 3 September 1598.
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John Lindsay apparently had a third daughter not yet shown (listed in following passage), and his second wife, Dame Jean Lauder, apparently has a foul temper:
"He was twice married, first, in 1581, to Marion, daughter of Alexander Guthrie, burgess of Edinburgh, and widow of David Borthwick of Lochhill, Lord Advocate from 1573 to 1580, by whom he had two sons, John and David, and three daughters; secondly, to Dame Jean Lauder, the dowager lady of Corstorphin, who, described as "a termagant," made his life very uncomfortable, and was even imprisoned for her violence. By this lady he had no children."
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Darryl Lundy's Peerage

Evidence from the National Records of Scotland

26 February 1591: Contract between Mr John Lindsay, parson of Menmwir, SCJ and Mr James Borthuik of Lochill, for himself and taking burden for Helen Traill, his spouse, with consent of David Wemes of that ilk and Alexander Dalmahoy of that ilk, his interdictors, and John Traill of Blebo, as cautioner, whereby the said Mr James dispones to the said Mr John his lands of Barnis, reserving liferent of Marion Guthrie, relict of Mr David Borthuik, now spouse of the said Mr John, and wadsets and tacks to Mr John Arthour and Helen Home, his spouse, the said John Traill granting his lands of Blebo (sheriffdom of Fife) in real warrandice of the above. National Records of Scotland, Papers of the Brooke Family of Biel, reference GD6/194

Genealogical Accounts

1. Darryl Lundy's Peerage

John Lindsay of Balcarres, Lord Menmuir [1]

• M, #20491,
• d. 3 September 1590
• Last Edited=29 Sep 2008
• Consanguinity Index=0.01%

John Lindsay of Balcarres, Lord Menmuir married, firstly, Marion Guthrie, daughter of Alexander Guthrie and Janet Henryson, on 29 November 1581.[4]

He married, secondly, Jane Lauder, daughter of unknown Lauder of Hatton, on 7 February 1590.[1]

He died on 3 September 1590.[1]

He was the son of David Lindsay, 9th Earl of Crawford and Katherine Campbell.[2],[3]

• He held the office of Lord of Session [Scotland]. He held the office of Secretary of State [Scotland].[4]
• He held the office of Privy Seal [Scotland].[4] He was styled as Lord Menmuir [Scottish Law Lord].[4]
• He lived at Balcarres, Fife, Scotland.[4]

Children of John Lindsay of Balcarres, Lord Menmuir and Marion Guthrie

• 1. Catherine Lindsay+[1]
• 2. John Lindsay [2] d. Jan 1600/1
• 3. Sir David Lindsay, 1st Lord Lindsay of Balcarres+[4] b. 17 Mar 1587, d. Mar 1641/42

Citations

• 1. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 952. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
• 2. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 376. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
• 3. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume III, page 515.
• 4. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume I, page 375.