Karen Sorenson (Mortensdatter)

Karen Tobine Mortensdatter Norway Baptisms Name Karen Tobine Mortensdatter Gender Female Birth Date 02 Feb 1852 Birthplace SOGNE, VEST-AGDER, NORWAY Father's Name Morten Andersen Mother's Name Tomine Tonnesdr CITING THIS RECORD

"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VWLC-88Z : accessed 12 October 2015), Karen Tobine Mortensdatter, 02 Feb 1852; citing SOGNE, VEST-AGDER, NORWAY; FHL microfilm 127,465.

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Karen Tobine Mortensdatter Norway, Baptisms Name: Karen Tobine Mortensdatter Gender: Female Event Date: 07 Mar 1852 Event Place: Søgne, Vest-Agder, Norway Birth Date: 02 Feb 1852 Birthplace: Søgne, Vest-Agder, Norway Father's Name: Morten Andersen Mother's Name: Tomine Tonnesdr Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42531-3 , System Origin: Norway-EASy , GS Film number: 127465 , Reference ID: 721

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Karen Tobine /Mortensdatter/ View Tree GENDER

Female BIRTH

2 February 1852 Sogne, Vest-Agder, Norway Sources5 CHRISTENING

7 March 1852 Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NW8P-ZD6 : accessed 30 Jan 2013), Karen Tobine Mortensdatter, 02 Feb 1852; citing Søgne, Vest-Agder, Norway; FHL microfilm 127465./Sogne, Vest-Agder, Norway DEATH

21 October 1933 Per google, found on genii web/Waterloo, Black Hawk, Iowa, USA Sources2 BURIAL

Waterloo, Black Hawk County, Iowa, United States of America Sources2 RESIDENCE

1 January 1925 Marital Status: Widowed; Relation to Head of House: Head/Waterloo, Black Hawk, Iowa Sources1 RESIDENCE

1930 Marital Status: Widowed; Relation to Head of House: Mother/Waterloo, Black Hawk, Iowa, USA Sources1 BAPTISM

7 March 1852 Søgne, Vest-Agder, Norway Sources1 PARENTS

FATHER

Morten /Andersen/ MOTHER

Tomine (Thomine) /Tonnesdatter (Tonnesen)/ MARRIAGES (1)

SPOUSE

Elias /Sorensen/ MARRIAGE

25 April 1877 Groom's father=Soren Jakobsen; "Norway, Marriages, 1660-1926," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NW98-N3F : accessed 30 Jan 2013), Elias Sorensen and Karen Thobine Mortensdr, 25 Apr 1877; citing , Sogne, Vest-Agder, Norway, referen/Sogne, Vest-Agder, Norway Sources1 SOURCES (6)

Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Ancestry.com : U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Ancestry.com : Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Ancestry.com : Iowa Cemetery Records Ancestry.com : Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 Ancestry.com : 1930 USA Federal Census, Year: 1930; Census Place: Waterloo, Black Hawk, Iowa; Roll: 643; Page: Ancestry.com :

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Birth and Baptism record of Karen Tobine Mortensdatter:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=946&idx_id=946&ui...

Below is the same thing but a different picture of it.

Permanent bildelenke:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060103010923.jpg

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Svartefjellet in Søgne is here:

http://kart.finn.no/index.jsp?lng=7.70285&lat=58.10075&tab=&zoom=15

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one of the people helping to look up thing about karen Tobine Mortensdatter came up with a few ideas about where the term Black Mountain came from. Here they are:

That is one possibility, but there is Svartfjellet near E39 east of Mandal and west of Kristiansand S. which look like a very likely candidate too. On the map it looks like Haugåsen at 180 meter above sea level is higher, so it isn't exactly a very tall mountain.

Svartfjellet means: Svart= black and fjell= mountain

Svartefjellet in Søgne is here:

http://kart.finn.no/index.jsp?lng=7.70285&lat=58.10075&tab=&zoom=15

I wrote and got a reply of:

   I think this makes the most sense, as Svarte means Black and jfell 

means mountain, and it's in sogne. I think I will go with this. But,
my question is now; do I give up the Vest-Agder part of it and put in
Svartefjellet instead?
Carol

I would not pick one or the other, but all of them. I would write it as:

Svartefjellet, Søgne, Vest Agder, Norway.

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Hi,

Here is the marriage between Elias Sørensen and Karen Thobine Mortensdatter. They married in Søgne in April 25th 1877, not in *1873*! Elias born 1847, Karen Thobine born 1852.

Note that Thobine is written different ways. For the most "Tobine".

Elias Sørensen is first recorded as "enkemann" (widower), but that is rectify to "ungk." (=ungkarl = bachelor). The grooms fathers name is Søren Jacobsen.

Permanent sidelenke:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6185&idx_id=6185&...

Permanent bildelenke:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070109610668.jpg

Kind regards

Oddvar

Here are the birth of Elias Sørensen, 17 january 1847 at Vigmostad, to Søren Jacobsen and Anne Olsdatter. Number 1:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1062&idx_id=1062&...

And this looks like Karen Tobine , b. 12 feb 1852 in Søgne to Morten Andersen and Tomine Tønnesdatter:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1062&idx_id=1062&...

SAME LINK AS FOR ELIAS ABOVE

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1865 Sogne, Norway Census: Søgne is a municipality in the Vest-Agder county, Norway.

Informasjon om bostedet:

Tellingsår: 1865

Kommune: Søgne

Kommunenummer: 1018

Navn på bosted: Tofte

Antall personer registrert på bostedet: 7

Navn Familie-stilling Sivil-stand Yrke Fødselsår Fødested Etnisitet

Morten Andersen Husfader g Gaardbruger og Selveier 1828 Oddernæs Prgj.

Tomine Tønnesdatter hans Kone g 1824 Søgne Prgj.

Andreas Mortensen deres Søn ug hjemme 1854 Søgne Prgj.

Tønnes Mortensen deres Søn ug hjemme 1856 Søgne Prgj.

Isak Mortensen deres Søn ug hjemme 1858 Søgne Prgj.

Martinius Mortensen deres Søn ug hjemme 1862 Søgne Prgj.

Karen T. Mortensdatter deres Datter ug hjemme 1852 Søgne Prgj.

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Informasjon om bostedet:

Tellingsår: 1900

Kommune: Eide

Kommunenummer: 0925

Navn på bosted: Gulduren

Antall personer registrert på bostedet: 5

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Carol,

This must be your Tobena in census 1900, then she live as widow in Eide municipality. The census state what I suspect that your Amercan Aleis is identical to Norwegian Elias.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1900&knr=0925&...

Navn Familie-stilling Sivil-stand Yrke Fødselsår Fødested Etnisitet

Tobine Mortensen hm e Gaardeier, dagarbeiderske ved gaardsbrug og husvæsen 1852 Søgne LM

Søren Eliassen s ug Sjømand, matros, Sliberiarbeider 1878 Vestre Moland

Ole Eliassen s ug Sjømand Matros 1884 Eide Ned

Carl Sørensen s ug Søn 1892 Eide Ned

Elise Eliasdatter d ug tjenestepige 1882 Eide Ned

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Karen Tobine Mortensdatter came to the U.S. in 1905.

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Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925

about Koren Sorenson

Name: Koren Sorenson

Birth Year: abt 1852

Birth Place: Norway

Gender: Female

Race: White

Marital Status: Widowed

Census Date: 1915

Residence State: Iowa

Residence County: Fayette

Locality: Auburn

Mother's Birthplace: Norway

Father's Birthplace: Norway

Roll: IA1915_188

Line: 426

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members:

Name Age

Koren Sorenson 63

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1920 United States Federal Census

about Calan Sorenson

Name: Calan Sorenson

Home in 1920: Auburn, Fayette, Iowa

Age: 67 years

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853

Birthplace: Norway

Relation to Head of House: Mother

Father's Birth Place: Norway

Mother's Birth Place: Norway

Marital Status: Widow

Race: White

Sex: Female

Year of Immigration: Un

Able to read: Yes

Able to Write: Yes

Image: 610

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members:

Name Age

Ole Sorenson 36

Viola Nelson 13

Esther Nelson 8

Caspia Nelson 7

Carl Sorenson 27

Calan Sorenson 67

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Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925

about Karen Sorenson

Name: Karen Sorenson

[Karen Morton]

Census Date: 1 Jan 1925

Residence County: Black Hawk

Residence State: Iowa

Locality: Waterloo

Birth Location: Norway

Marital Status: Widowed

Gender: Female

Birth Year: abt 1853

Race: White

Relation to Head: Head

Mother: Tobena Tomson

Mother's Birthplace: Norway

Father: Anderson Morton

Father's Birthplace: Norway

Marriage Place: Norway

Line: 17

Roll: IA1925_1606

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members:

Name Age

Karen Sorenson 72

Olie Sorenson 42

Violia Nelson 18

Wm Johnson 23

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1930 United States Federal Census

about Karen Sorensen

Name: Karen Sorensen

Home in 1930: Waterloo, Black Hawk, Iowa

Age: 78

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852

Relation to Head of House: Mother

Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members:

Name Age

Ole A Sorensen 46

Karen Sorensen 78

Esther Nelson 18

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Karen T. Sorenson Memorial Photos Flowers Edit Share Learn about upgrading this memorial... Birth: 1852 Death: 1933

Burial: Elmwood Cemetery Waterloo Black Hawk County Iowa, USA Plot: Section A

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Notes by CASPARA OVIDA NELSON (BURGER) ( TOUTANT)

My Mother was born September 7, 1882, Elissa Cathrine Sorenson and passed away May 25, 1917. She was born in Norway. Her mother was Karen Tobena, and I don’t know about her father. Brothers and Sister were Ole, Carl and Martin. Martin died at sea. She had Vie, Lloyd, Esther, me, Selma and Eliza. My Dad Ole L. Nelson was born in Norway December 03, 1865 and died at Gunder Iowa May 05, 1925. I don’t know a thing about his parents. His brothers and sisters were. Nels, Christian, Kjersty and Anna. He had Carl ( Charley), Lloyd, Esther, Me, Selma and Eliza. My mother had Vie out of wedlock before she and dad were married, My dad had Charley with his first wife, Carrie Kold. Who passed away when Charley was 3. This all took place at Gunder Iowa in Clayton County.

My mother died of T.B.  My dad died of enlargement of the heart.  

            Your dad and I were married November 29, 1934 at Sacred Heart Catholic Church in Waterloo.  We were divorced October 31, 1955. The L in my dads name doesn’t stand for anything and his brother Nels took the name of Larson, to get away from too many Nels.Nelsons.  My dad came from Lillessond  and my mother came from Stavonger, Both from Norway. 

Lloyd Cornel, Esther Constance, Caspara Ovida, Selma Theadore, Eliza ( No middle name ) and Vie was Martha Viola. ESTHER CONSTANCE NELSON was born October 19, 1911 on a farm near Gunder Iowa, Clayton County. Drown July 09, 1933 in sand pit Black Hawk County, near Cedar falls. Was Buried in East Clermont Cemetery, Clayton County. She never married.

          Karen Tobina Sorenson, born at Black Mountain, Norway. Died  October, 1933 in Waterloo, Black hawk County. Was buried there at Elmwood Cemetery. Her father was Morton Anderson.  Her mother was Karen Anderson.  Her husband was Elias Sorenson.  She had a sister  Ingeborg  Mortenson.  She had two brothers Andres Mortenson and Martin Mortenson.   Her Children were.  OLE, CARL, MARTIN, ELISSA and one more daughter.( No name).  She was born Karen Tobine Mortenson,  February 24, 1852.  She was married to Elias Sorenson in 1873. He died in Norway 1898.  She came to America in 1905.

         MATHA VIOLA NELSON  (SMITH)  was born  June 11, 1907 sb 1904 at a farm near Eldorado, Iowa Fayette County, with Mrs Nels (Karina) Reinertson as midwife to Elissa Sorenson and Emil Dahl. She never went by Dahl. She was Never adopted by Ole L. Nelson. She went by Nelson tho.  She Married Jessie Bennet Smith  in Waterloo Iowa February 27, 1926.  We had the same mother. Vie had a different dad.  

          CARL (CHARLEY) NELSON , was born near Gunder Iowa, Clayton County.  June 22, 1892  too Ole L and Kari Nelson. He married Clara Sharlewis of Postville Iowa in 1926.  He passed away August 31, 1968. Near Carson City Michigan and buried there.

          SELMA THEODORA NELSON born February 09, 1915.  Died 1925 at Oakdale, Iowa. She was born Near Gunder, Iowa in Clayton County. Buried at East Clermont Cemetery, in Clayton County.

           LLOYD CORNEL NELSON born near Gunder Iowa, Clayton County. December 23, 1909. He married Grace Sawvell. June 06, 1936.

     ELIZA NELSON (BIGLER) born May 01, 1917 out side of Clermont, Iowa, Clayton County.  She married Charles W. Bigler. November 16, 1942., at Oelwein Iowa, Fayette County.

       Sam and I were married June 19 1967 in Blooming Prairie, Minn..  

       Arthur W Burger and I were married November 29, 1934 at Sacred Heart  Church in Waterloo. 

        Charley or Carl had a middle name of Norman, He was born in1892.   Vies dad Emil Dahl never married our mother. According to Lloyds old records Vie was born 1904. She didn’t know that either!  She thought it was 1906

I Robert L Nelson typed the notes of Caspara Nelson. They were very faint and very hard to read. They were hand written.