Margaret MacDonald

Seen as the same person as the 1st wife of John Sutherland

(perhaps called) Margaret MacDonald, first daughter of Alexander MacDonald, lord of the Isles (d 1449) according to Sir Robert Gordon, historian for the Sutherlands, married John Sutherland, 8th Earl Sutherland, son of John Sutherland, 7th Earl Sutherland and Margaret Baillie. The Scots Peerage is skeptical of the marriage.

Notes

TSP listed no daughters for Alexander MacDonald, lord of the Isles and Earl of Ross.

The name Margaret as a daughter of Alexander seems to come from “History of the Macdonalds and Lords of the Isles.”

References

• Volume 22 - Acts of the lords of the Isles, 1336-1493 (1986) page 304, Table 6, Alexander’s descendants (notes on pp 303-9; “daughters” on note 23, page 309). <link>. See also the (document attached).
• Volume 22 - Acts of the lords of the Isles, 1336-1493 (1986) page 309, note 23. <link> “There is confusion over marriages of Alexander’s daughters and grand-daughters, and documentary evidence is slight (see notes 10-13 above, and table 7/5 below). Sutherland Earldom, 75, gives Alexander a daughter, perhaps Margaret, who married John, Earl of Sutherland. …. Flora or Florence, wife of Duncan Mackintosh, captain of clan Chattan, who held lands in Lochaber from John in 1466 (No 88), is said to have been a daughter of an earl of Ross, John or Alexander …”. [notes 10-13 on page 307 list Celestine’s daughters <link>]. [Table 7 on page 313 show John’s descendants <link>]
• The Scots Peerage, Vol. V, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 44. <Archive.Org> No daughters listed for Alexander of the Isles (d 1449).
• https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dictionary_of_National_Biography,_1885-1900/Macdonald,_Alexander_(d.1449) By his wife Elizabeth, daughter of Alexander Seton, lord of Gordon and Huntly, he had a son John [q. v.] who succeeded him. He had also two other sons, Celestine, styled also Archibald, and its Gaelic equivalent Gillespie, lord of Lochalsh and Lochearne; and Hugh (Gaelic, Huistean), also called Austin, and Augustine, lord of Sleat. These two sons are usually supposed to have been children of his lawful wife, but as entries in the Exchequer Rolls clearly show that John was younger than they, the presumption is that they were sons merely by concubinage. Of several daughters, Margaret married John, twelfth [SIC] earl of Sutherland, and Florence, Duncan MacIntosh, ninth of MacIntoch.
  • [Bower's Continuation of Fordun; Exchequer Rolls of Scotland; Gregory's Hist. of the Western Highlands; Mackenzie's Hist. of the Macdonalds.]
• “History of the Macdonalds and Lords of the Isles: With Genealogies of the ... “ By Alexander Mackenzie. (1881) Page 89. <GoogleBooks>
• “A family memoir of the Macdonalds of Keppoch,” ed. by C.R. Markham, with notes by C.E. Stuart, comte d’Albanie. By Angus Macdonald. (1885) Page 13. <GoogleBooks> “1st daughter, Margaret, married to John, Earl of Sutherland, and was mother of Elizabeth, heiress of that noble family.”
• “The peerage of Scotland: containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom.” By Robert Douglas, Esq. Page 663. <link> “XI. JOHN, eleventh earl, who got a char∣ter from king James III.* of the lands of Pol∣rossie, and others, Johanni comiti Sutherlandiae, &c. anno 1467. He married lady Margaret MacDonald, daughter of Alexander earl of Ross, and lord of the Isles,* by whom he had two sons, and one daughter. 1. John, his heir. 2. Alexander, who died unmarried. His daughter, lady Elizabeth, afterwards countess of Sutherland, carried on the line of this family, as will be shown hereafter. He died anno 1508, and was succeeded by his only surviving son, …” * Gordon's hist. p. 45.
• https://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getpe... “Not known which wife (or partner) of her father Margaret MacDonald was”
• https://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/mac/macdonald01.php#suth8
• https://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/mm4fz/murray01.php#link1
• https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117554&tree=LEO “Margaret MacDonald, daughter of Alexander MacDonald and an unknown woman” cites
  • Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 2365
• http://www.fullbooks.com/History-Of-The-Mackenzies1.html (no daughters of Alexander mentioned)
• http://thepeerage.com/p1014.htm#i10139 “ Her married name became Sutherland”
• https://www.patrickspeople.scot/our%20family/7278.htm (2022) “daughter MacDonald married John de Moravia, 8th Earl of Sutherland“ cites
  • e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 8 (1911).
• https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1254.htm... (2005) lists Margaret MacDonald (d c 1490) with parents Alexander MacDonald (d 1449) & Elizabeth Seton. Cites:
  • [S11484] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/1, p. 547, notes. http://www.familysearch.org/library/books/idurl/1/583084
  • [S11587] The Scots Peerage, Vol. VIII, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 335-336. (Which doesn’t list name and parents for the wife of John Sutherland)
• Reference: WikiTree Genealogy - SmartCopy: Jul 18 2017, 22:26:36 UTC (no longer applies)