Margaret de St. Pierre

Biography

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Margaret was the daughter of Sir Urian de St Pierre.[1]

A St Per was married to Sir Raufe Vernon of Hanwell.[2] He was the oldest son of Sir Raufe ye Vernon the old and his wife, Mary of Dacres.[2]

Margaret and Raufe had:[2]

1. Rawlin;[2] had:
   1. Sir Rauf ye Vernon of Mottram;[2] who had:
      1. Young Sir Raufe, who married Agnes daughter of Richard Damory;[2]
         1. # Margaret Vernon who married Sir Hamon le Strange of Hunstanton.[1] (disputed)
2. Hitchcock;[2]
3. John;[2] and
4. Thomas;[2]

In 1319, Ralph de Vernoun, knight, released to Margaret late the wife of Ralph his son, for her life, of his right in the manor of Hanwell (Oxfordshire).[3]

Research Notes

Margaret Vernon, the wife of Sir Hamon le Strange of Hunstanton, knighted before May 1309, in the pedigree in the Hunstanton Muniment Room, made by Roger l'Estrange of Hoe in 1686, says Margaret was the daughter and co-heir of Richard Vernon de Molton, descended from the ancient Lords Vernon of Shipbrooke, Cheshire. Edmondson in Baronagium Genealogicum V:493, says Margaret Vernon was the daughter, but not coheir, of Sir Ralph or Sir Robert Vernon of Mottram in Cheshire who married Margaret, daughter of Sir Urian de St Pierre.[1]

Urian, Margaret's father, married twice; by 22 July, 1275 he was married to his second wife whose name was Margaret. If this Margaret's birth year was circa 1278, as originally stated when this profile was created, she was Margaret's child not Idonea's.

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According to the Norfolk historian Blomefield, Sir Hamo le Strange of "Hunston" (as Hunstanton was sometimes spelled) married Margaret Vernon, daughter of Ralph Vernon of Mottram in Cheshire. These Vernons descend from the Vernons of Shipbrook.

Blomefield and some authors say the mother of Margaret was Elizabeth de St Peter his wife, daughter of Sir Brian de St. Peter, and also that Margaret was heiress to the Vernons. Histories of Cheshire and the Vernons seem to confirm a Ralph Vernon of Mottram had a daughter who married Hamo le Strange, but they name the mother as Agnes d'Amory. See Hansell in 1823,[1] Lysons in 1810.[2]

There is in fact a good lead amongst Wrottesley's Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls, which shows that there were at least 4 generations of such Ralphs in this family, but does not name the mother of Margaret.[3]

Two Close Rolls entries show that the Daumori or Daumary family was involved in executing the will of Hamo's brother John, and this seems a good indicator that they were blood relatives.[4][5]

More clear, the old visitation pedigrees make the St Pierre marriage several generations earlier, confirming that it happened, just not exactly how Blomefield understood it in Norfolk. See the article for Ralph Vernon "the old" (Vernon-109).

An entry in the register of Edward the Black Prince adds further confirmation that Margaret the wife of Hamon Le Strange was daughter of Agnes and her late husband Ralph son of Ralph de Vernoun, knight, of Mottrum St Andrew.[6]

'Parishes: Hanwell', in A History of the County of Oxford: Volume 9, Bloxham Hundred, ed. Mary D Lobel and Alan Crossley (London, 1969), pp. 112-123. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/oxon/vol9/pp112-123 [accessed 31 December 2022].

The Ralph de Vernon who was lord of Hanwell in 1316 (fn. 71) was probably the son of Sir Ralph (fn. 72) and evidently held the manor in his father's lifetime. (fn. 73) The younger Ralph was dead by 1319 when his father granted Hanwell to his daughter-in-law Margaret for her life. (fn. 74) 'Old Sir Ralph' was still alive in 1329 (fn. 75) but was probably dead by 1334 when his younger son Richard, Rector of Stockport (Ches.) and ultimate remainder man of his father's lands under a settlement of 1325, (fn. 76) granted the reversion of Hanwell after Margaret's death to his kinsman John de Vernon. (fn. 77) Margaret seems to have been dead by 1340 when Sir Ralph de Vernon, who was probably son of another Richard, illegitimate son of 'old Sir Ralph', and who succeeded to the barony of Shipbrook about this time, (fn. 78) granted Hanwell to John de Vernon. (fn. 79) John, who was perhaps a younger son of Ralph and Margaret de Vernon, (fn. 80) was lord of Hanwell in 1346 (fn. 81) and was succeeded there by his son Edmund (fn. 82) by 1379. (fn. 83)

References

1. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/St_Pierre-30
   1. Le Strange, Hamon, MA, FSA, Le Strange Records: A Chronicle of the Early Le Stranges of Norfolk and the March of Wales 1100-1310 with the Lines of Knockin and Blackmere Continued to their Extinction, (London: Longmans, Green and Co., 1916), 267, e-book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/lestrangerecord00lest/page/267/mode/1up ; accessed 28 April, 2022).
   2. Rylands, John Paul, ed., The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580 Made by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald, for William Flower, Norroy King of Arms, with Numerous Additions and Continuations, Including Those from the Visitation of Cheshire Made in the Year 1566, by the Same Herald. With an Appendix, Containing the Visitation of a Part of Cheshire in the Year 1533, made by William Fellows, Lancaster Herald, for Thomas Benolte, Clarenceux King of Arms. And a Fragment of the Visitation of the City of Chester in the Year 1591, Made by Thomas Chaloner, Deputy to the Office of Arms, (London: Harleian Society, XVIII, 1882), 202, e-book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/visitationofches00glov/page/202/mode/1up : accessed 2 June, 2022). Pedigree: Pro Savage.
   3. The National Archives Website: Discovery: E 210 - Exchequer: King's Remembrancer: Ancient Deeds, Series D: E 210/6450 Ralph de Vernoun, knight to Margaret late the wife of Ralph his son, (https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C5905846 : accessed 2 June, 2022).
2. 'Parishes: Hanwell', in A History of the County of Oxford: Volume 9, Bloxham Hundred, ed. Mary D Lobel and Alan Crossley (London, 1969), pp. 112-123 http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/oxon/vol9/pp112-123 [accessed 7 August 2015].