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Nest verch Gruffydd

Also Known As: "Nest", "Nesta ferch Gruffudd"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Rhuddlan, Flintshire, Wales
Death: Hereford, Herfordshire, England
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Gruffydd ap Llewelyn, King of Wales and Ealdgyth
Wife of Osbern Fitz Richard, 2nd Baron of Burford
Mother of Nesta, of Hereford; Walter le Scrope; Hugh Fitz Osbern, 3d Baron of Burford; Turstin Fitz Osbern and Sir Simon le Scrope
Sister of Idwal ap Gruffydd
Half sister of Harold Haraldsson; Owain ap Gruffudd; Ithel ap Gruffydd; Maredudd ap Gruffudd; Nest (1) verch Gruffudd and 1 other

Managed by: Anne Brannen
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About Nest ferch Gruffydd

See Peter Bartrum, https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/6516/TABLES%... (May 27, 2018; Anne Brannen, curator)

Several women named Nest have, over the centuries, been conflated. Please see Darrell Wolcott, http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id173.html, for work on this issue; he untangles places and times, and makes sense of the histories.

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Nest or Nesta

Possible date of death: c.1125

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/WALES.htm#Gruffydddied1244B

NESTA .

daughter of GRUFFYDD ap Llywelyn (-killed Snowdonia 5 Aug 1063) and EALDGYTH of Mercia, daughter of ÆLFGAR Earl of Mercia & his first wife Ælfgifu.

m OSBERN FitzRichard of Richard's Castle on the Herefordshire/Shropshire border.

(a) NESTA [Agnes] . A manuscript narrating the history of Brecknock priory records that the founder “Bernard de Nefmarche, Norman” married “Neste qe fut apele Agnes, la file Griffin le fiz Lewelin…cruel tyrant de Gales” by whom he fathered “Mael…noble chevalier” whom it was claimed was not his son and who was deprived of Brecknock in favour of “la file [de] Neste, Sibile” wife of “Miles…fiz Watir le conestable de Gloucestre e de Hereford”[135]. m BERNARD de Neufmarché, son of GEOFFROY de Neufmarché & his wife Ada --- (-1125). “Bernardus de Novo-mercato” donated property to Breckon priory, for the soul of “Philippi filii mei”, by charter dated to the reign of King Henry I[136].


Nesta verch Gruffydd b abt 1046, Rhuddlan, Wales. She md Osbern Fitz Richard abt 1072, son of Richard Fitz Scrob.

Osborn Fitz Richard [b] b abt 1045, Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England, d aft 1100. He md Nesta verch Gruffydd abt 1072, daughter of Gruffydd ap Llywelyn, Prince of North Wales, King of Gwynedd and Powys, and Aldgyth/Edith.

Children of Osborn Fitz Richard and Nesta verch Gruffydd were:

Hugh Fitz Osborn b abt 1078.

Nesta b abt 1082, Herefordshire, England. She md Bernard de Neufmarche, Baron of Brecnoch, abt 1095.


She was also called of Nesta verch Gwynedd.

She first married Fleance (of Stewart Myth), son of Banquo (of Stewart Myth) and Muldivana, before 1045; "... which gives even more cause for doubt."

She also married Brenin Gwynedd Trahaern ap Caradoc o Arwystli, son of Caradog o Arwystli and UNKNOWN verch Gwerystan o Powys, before 1070.

She also married our ancestor Osbern fitz Richard, son of Richard FitzScrob of Hereford and UNKNOWN de Essex, before 1080.

See "My Lines"

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p58.htm#i7147 )

from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )



Fleance and his father Banquo are both fictional characters presented as historical fact by Hector Boece, whose Scotorum Historiae (1526–27) was a source for Raphael Holinshed's Chronicles,[1] a history of the British Isles popular in Shakespeare's time. In the Chronicles, Fleance—in fear of Macbeth—flees to Wales and marries Nesta verch Gruffydd, daughter of Gruffydd ap Llywelyn, the last native Prince of Wales.

They have a son named Walter who makes his way back to Scotland and is appointed Royal Steward. According to legend, he fathered the Stuart monarchs of England and Scotland.[2]

The Stuarts used their connection with Fleance and his marriage to the Welsh princess to claim a genealogical link with the legendary King Arthur. This, they hoped, would strengthen the legitimacy of their throne.[3] In 1722, however, Richard Hay, a Scottish historian, presented strong evidence that not only was James not a descendant of Fleance, but also that both Fleance and Banquo never even existed. Most modern scholars now agree that Fleance is not a real historical figure.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleance



Excerpt from The Consorts and Children of Gruffudd ap Llewelyn

Gruffudd also had a daughter, Nest, who married Trahaearn ap Caradog. This man, in 1075, succeeded Bleddyn ap Cynfyn as king of Powys, and probably also king of Gwynedd. Born c. 1035, Trahaearn had sons Owain and Llywarch (among others) who were born c. 1065/1070. These dates point to c. 1050 as the birthdate of Nest, with the marriage taking place shortly after Gruffudd's death in 1063.

Gruffudd had a second daughter, also named Nest, about 1056. It is known that this second Nest was the mother of a daughter, also named Nest, who married the Norman knight Bernard Newmarch. The husband of this c. 1056 Nest is widely cited by modern authors as the Norman man, Osbern fitz Richard. There are, however, no ancient or even medieval manuscripts which confirm that marriage. Name

Name: Nesta /Verch Gruffydd/[1] Sources

↑ Source: #S004444 Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: Darrell Wolcott, The Consorts and Children of Gruffudd ap Llewelyn Source: S004444 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Note: #NS044441 Repository: Source: #S-1992136522: Page: Ancestry Family Trees: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=24279608&pid... Source: #S6: Page: Ancestry Family Trees: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=12311418&pid...


from wikipedia:

" Nesta ferch Gruffydd, married Osbern FitzRichard of Richard's Castle. Their daughter Agnes (or Nest) married Bernard de Neufmarche. Nesta ferch Gruffydd also was married to Trahearn Ap Caradog before Osborn. They had 7 children. "



Nesta Ferch Gruffyd is reputedly the daughter of King Gruffyd ap Llywelyn of Wales and Ealdgyth / Edith of Mercia.....By immediate ancestry, Edith of Mercia was the daughter of Aelfgar / Earl of Mercia and his wife Aelgifu. Earl Aelfgar's father was Earl Leofric of East Anglia, husband of Lady Godiva.....Subsequent to the murder of King Gruffyd in 1063, Edith married Earl Harold Godwineson, albeit probably unwillingly. With the brief accession of Earl Harold to the throne in 1066 as King Harold II, Edith briefly became the last Saxon "queen" of England.

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Nest ferch Gruffydd's Timeline

1055
1055
Rhuddlan, Flintshire, Wales
1079
1079
Eardisley, Herefordshire, England
1080
1080
Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England
1080
Richards Castle, Herefordshire, England
1899
November 28, 1899
Age 844
November 28, 1899
Age 844
November 28, 1899
Age 844
1900
June 8, 1900
Age 845
June 8, 1900
Age 845