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From Stirnet's "Pinder1" page: "Visitation (Cheshire) starts with Thomas of Wellingborough, showing only his son <this> Reginald. Visitation (London) shows the above Thomas as father of Ralph, Sir Pawle & Amy but does not mention <this> Reginald. That the coats of arms given in the two Visitations suggest that the Pinders and the Pindars were of the same family We presume that the following <this> Reginald was brother of Ralph, Paul & Amy but it is not impossible that he was in fact their cousin."