Sir John Keith of Humbie & Innerpeffer

John Keith of Humbie & Innerpeffer

• Birth: ABT 1294 in Humbie, East Lothian, Scotland 4
• Death: 1324 in Inverpeffer, Angus, Scotland 4
• Father: Robert Keith Sir Great Marischal b: ABT 1262 in Humbie, East Lothian, Scotland
• Mother: Barbara Douglas b: ABT 1277 in Douglas Castle, Douglas, South Lanarkshire, Scotland

Marriage

1. de Soules b: BEF 1297 in Hermitage Castle, Liddesdale, Roxburghshire, Scotland

Children

1. Robert Keith Sir Great Marshal of Scotland b: ABT 1318 in Inverpeffer, Angus, Scotland
2. Margaret Keith Heiress of Innerpeffer b: ABT 1320 in Inverpeffer, Angus, Scotland
3. Edward Keith Sir b: ABT 1321 in Inverpeffer, Angus, Scotland
4. Miss Keith b: ABT 1322 in Humbie, East Lothian, Scotland
5. Edmund Keith b: ABT 1323 in Inverpeffer, Angus, Scotland

Sir John Keith; m. a sister and coheir of William de Soules, and dvp 1324, leaving a son Robert who succeeded as Marshal and dspm. [Burke's Peerage]

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The name of Robert’s wife is not known. Robert & his wife had two children:

i) JOHN de Keith (-1324). "Robertus de Keth Marescallus Scocie" donated "tenementum de Jonystoun Inferiori" to Soltre Hospital by undated charter, witnessed by "domino Ricardo de Keth milite fratre nostro, domino Philippo rectore ecclesie de Byger fratre nostro, domino Adam de Keth avunculo nostro rectore ecclesie de Marescal Keth, Johanne filio nostro et herede…"[905]. m --- de Soulis, daughter of NICHOLAS [II] de Soulis & his wife Margaret Comyn. Accounts of the viscount of Roxburgh dated 1335/36 record that "Johannis de Kethe" married "Willelmi de Soules…sororem"[906].

John & his wife had three children:

• (a) ROBERT de Keith (-after [1336]).
• (b) EDWARD de Keith (-killed in battle Durham 17 Oct 1346).
• (c) EDMUND de Keith (-killed in battle Durham 17 Oct 1346).

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Biography

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Keith-1290

John Keith is a member of Clan Keith. Birth

John Keith was the son and heir of Sir Robert Keith and Barbara Douglas.[1][2][3] John's date of birth has been estimated as occurring circa 1294, based upon an entry in The Scots Peerage (Vol. VI), where John's son, Robert, is mentioned:

as having been present at the taking of Perth in 1332. He must have been then quite a youth, for he seems to have been under age in 1335-36, when Ralph de Neville possessed his half of the Soulis lands in Liddesdale in ward. He seems to have been dead some years prior to 1345-46.[1]
If grandson Robert fought at Perth in 1332, he would have been at least 16, for any younger, he would not have been eligible for military service.[4][5] Thus, having still been a minor in 1335-36, he was likely about age 19.[1] This would place John's son, Robert, as having been born circa 1316. Assuming an early parentage of 22 for his father, John may have been born circa 1294.

John Keith had one known brother, Sir William, noted for opposing the peace in August of 1335 between Scotland and England.[1]

Marriage

John married an unknown sister and co-heir of William de Soules and had the following issue: Robert, who succeeded his grandfather Robert Keith as Marischal of Scotland, married Margaret, daughter of Sir Gilbert Hay of Errol, first Constable of Scotland, but died without issue;[2] an unknown daughter who married Sir Robert Maitland; and Edmund and Sir Edward, both of whom were killed at the battle of Durham on 17 October 1346.[1][6] It is unknown whether John had any previous marriages.

Death

John died in 1324, pre-deceasing his father, which appears by an entail made by John's father, Robert Keith, in 1325, whereby John's estate was passed on to his son, Robert and his heirs male.[1] The location of his death and burial are unknown.

Notes

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-383255

Marrote was born about 1280. (?) According to Forbes Leslie, the family historian, she was likely a daughter or granddaughter, of Sir Robert de Keith, the Marischal, who was killed at the battle of Dupplin in 1332. [1] In his notes, [2]Forbes Leslie suggests "The eldest son of this Sir Robert Keith, Sir John Keith, died in his father's lifetime, leaving a family of one son (Sir Robert, who succeeded as Marischal, and was killed at the battle of Durham in 1346) and two daughters. Sir Robert left no issue, and the office of Marischal and the entailed lands passed to his grand-uncle, Sir Edward Keith. It was probably a claim for property by the sisters of the deceased Sir Robert Keith (one of whom was married to Sir Robert Maitland of Thirlestane, and the other to the laird of Drum) that led to the "cruel feud" which raged in the latter part of the fourteenth century between the Keiths Marischal and the Irvines of Drum.

notes

Note: M. Gisi, World Connect db=momgisi, rootsweb.com has this John Keith of Innerpeffer as the same person as John Keith of Humbie who dvp 1324. The two people certainly existed about the same time. The fact that Robert the Bruce gave Innerpeffer to John's father as a result of the Battle of Bannockburn (see note under John's father Robert), proves that they are the same person.

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• http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet%2Dt&i...
• https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm...
• https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Keith-1290