Sir John "Libertine" Forrester, Lord of Corstorphine

The Peerage.com shows his mother as Agnes Dundas, but Stirnet has as by Adam Forrester’s 2nd wife, Margaret.

Biography

From http://www.angelfire.com/ct2/corstorphine/index3b.html

Sir John Forrester, his eldest son, was brought up at Court, and succeeded his father in the situation of Depute-Chamberlain of the southern division of the kingdom. He obtained a charter to the estate of Corstorphine from William More of Abercorne, then the superior, on 22nd March 1392, which was probably on the occasion of his marriage. After 1408, he acted as Depute-Chamberlain of the whole kingdom, under the Earl of Buchan, who seems to have devolved upon him all the duties of the office of High Chamberlain. In this situation he continued down to the year 1425; but in that interval he held also several other appointments. In 1416, he was named one of the Commissioners to treat with England for the King's liberty, and in 1421 he was made Lord Privy: Seal. His crown charter to the estates of Corstorphine, Drylaw, Nether Liberton, Meadowfield, and Clerkington, erecting them into the Barony of Corstorphine, is dated 10th July 1424; and in the same year he was one of the hostages given for the King's ransom. As a remuneration for his numerous services, on the King's return to Scotland, a new office was created for him under the name of Magister Hospitii, Master of the Horse, and in the following year he was made Lord High Chamberlain. It was at this period of his life, that he founded and endowed the Collegiate Church of Corstorphine.

Sir John Forrester was three times married. The surname of his first wife, Margaret, is unknown, but the second was Lady Jean St. Clair, daughter of the first Earl of Orkney, and his third was Marian Stewart, daughter of Sir Walter Stewart of Garlies, and relict of Sir John Stewart of Jedworth. He died in 1440, and was buried in the chancel of the collegiate church.

Supporting data

• Sir John Forrester of Corstorphine1
• M, #636981
• Last Edited=11 Mar 2014
• Sir John Forrester of Corstorphine married Jean Sinclair, daughter of Henry Sinclair, 1st Earl of Orkney and Jane Halyburton.1
• Child of Sir John Forrester of Corstorphine and Jean Sinclair
  • 1.Janet Forrester+1 d. a 1488
• Citations
• 1.[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume VIII, page 591. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
• From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p63699.htm#i636981 ______________________
• Sir John Forrester, 2nd Laird of Corstorphine, Chamberlain of Scotland1,2
• M, #4108, d. 1448
• Father Adam Forrester, 1st Laird of Corstorphine d. 13 Oct 1405
• Mother Agnes Dundas
• Sir John Forrester, 2nd Laird of Corstorphine, Chamberlain of Scotland was born at of Corstorphine, Scotland. He married Margaret. Sir John Forrester, 2nd Laird of Corstorphine, Chamberlain of Scotland married Jean Sinclair, daughter of Henry Sinclair, 1st Earl Orkney, Lord Shetland and Jean Haliburton. Sir John Forrester, 2nd Laird of Corstorphine, Chamberlain of Scotland died in 1448.2
• Family 1 Margaret
• Family 2 Jean Sinclair
• Children
  • Janet Forrester+ d. a 1488
  • John Forrester, 3rd Laird of Corstorphine+
• Citations
• 1.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol.VIII, p. 591.
• 2.[S11649] Clan MacFarlane & Associated Clans Genealogy.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p137.htm#i... _________________________
• The lands and Barony of Corstorphine have long been associated with the Forrester family. The first firm link with Corstorphine comes with Adam Forrester a wealthy burgess of Edinburgh in the 1360s when he begins to acquire land in the vicinity.
• Between 1374 and 1377 King Robert II confirmed Adam Forester, a burgess of Edinburgh, in the lands of the Lordship of Corstorphine,[3] which had previously been owned by William More of Abercorn. Forrester founded a chapel dedicated to St. John the Baptist, connected to the parish church of Corstorphine.
• Sir John Forrester of Corstorphine, who succeeded his father upon his death, was granted various lands, mostly in West Lothian, in 1426 which were united into the barony of Liberton. In Perth on 4 February 1431 James I confirmed him in the house and lands of Corstorphine which would be thereafter known as the Barony of Corstorphine. He likely founded the collegiate kirk of Corstorphine in 1429, which forms part of today's parish kirk. Sir John is thought to have died in 1448 and was buried in Corstorphine Kirk where recumbent effigies of him and one of his wives survive. He had four children: John, Henry, Elizabeth, and Janet. ....
• The title then fell to his eldest son John, who is believed to have been more of a soldier than a civil servant. In 1443 he was with the Earl of Douglas when he destroyed Barnton castle, a stronghold of the Crichtons. As a direct consequence Forrester's house at Corstorphine was razed. He died in 1454 and was buried in Corstorphine Kirk where his tomb can still be seen.
• From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corstorphine ___________________________
• Sir John Forrester, of Corstorphine[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
• Died Abt 1448
• Notes ◦IDENTITY: Served heir to his father 6 November 1405. On 30 December 1407 he had a confirmation of a charter by Henry St. Clair, Earl of Orkney, of an aunualrent of twelve merks out of the lands and collieries of Dysart in consideration of an advance by him to the Earl of 300 gold nobles, English money. On 3 March 1407-8 he had a confirmation of a charter to himself and his wife Margaret by Sir John Drummond of Cargill of the lands of Ochtertyre, co. Stirling. He was one of the Commissioners sent to England to treat for the release of King James I. in 1416, and was made Keeper of the Great Seal by the Duke of Albany when he became Governor in 1420. FAMILY: It is unknown as to which wife his children belong. However, Peerage of Scotland says John had issue, probably by the first wife only.
• Father Sir Adam Forrester, Knight, d. 13 Oct 1405
• Mother Margaret, d. Aft 20 May 1429
• Family 1 Margaret
• Children
  • 1. Sir John Forrester, of Corstorphin
  • 2. Sir Alexander Forrester, of Corstorphine, d. Bef 20 Sep 1473
  • 3. Janet Forrester
  • 4. Isobel Forrester
  • 5. Henry Forrester
  • 6. Elisabeth Forrester
• Family 2 Jean Sinclair
• Family 3 Marion Stewart, d. Abt 1449
• Married 1422 [9, 10]
• Sources
• 1.[S39] Medieval, royalty, nobility family group sheets (filmed 1996), Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Family History Department. Medieval Family History Unit, (Manuscript. Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1996), FHL film 1553977-1553985..
• 2.[S109] #2419 Genealogical account of the family of Edmonstone of Duntreath, Edmonstone, Archibald, Sir, (Edinburgh : A. Edmondson, 1875), 929.241 Ed58e., p. 26.
• 3.[S473] The book of Carlaverock : memoirs of the Maxwells, earls of Nithsdale, Lords Maxwell and Herries, Fraser, William, (Edinburgh : [s.n.], 1873 Also found at www.heritagequestonline.com), 929.241 M451f., p. 582.
• 4.[S1924] #189 The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, with Armorial Illustrations (1904-1914), Paul , Sir James Balfour, (9 volumes. Edinburgh: D. Douglas, 1904-1914), FHL book 941 D22p; FHL microfilms104,157-104,161., vol. 4 p. 82, 150.
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• 7.[S21] #226 The Peerage of Scotland: Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of That Kingdom, from Their Origin to the Present Generation (2nd edition, 1813), Douglas, Sir Robert, (2nd edition. 2 volumes. Edinburgh: A. Constable, 1813 NOTE: Caution should be taken with this peerage, and compared with other peerages to obtain accurate information about the families. Some of the lineages are confused, but can be used for supplemental information.), FHL book Q 941 D22d; FHL microfilm 1,440,956 items., vol. 2 p. 314, 338.
• 8.[S1924] #189 The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, with Armorial Illustrations (1904-1914), Paul , Sir James Balfour, (9 volumes. Edinburgh: D. Douglas, 1904-1914), FHL book 941 D22p; FHL microfilms104,157-104,161., vol. 4 p. 83, 150.
• 9.[S1850] Medieval Lands: A Prosopography of Medieval European Noble and Royal Families, Charles Cawley, (http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/), SCOTLAND KINGS; http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm [Accessed Nov 2009].
• 10.[S1924] #189 The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, with Armorial Illustrations (1904-1914), Paul , Sir James Balfour, (9 volumes. Edinburgh: D. Douglas, 1904-1914), FHL book 941 D22p; FHL microfilms104,157-104,161., vol. 4 p. 84.
• From: https://histfam.familysearch.org//getperson.php?personID=I55877&tre... ________________________
• Links
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Forrester
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corstorphine ___________________________
• Earl Henry is also said to have had issue : 6. Jean, married to Sir John Forrester of Oorstorphine.,https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun06pauluoft/page/569/mod...