Sir Richard Fiennes, 7th Baron Dacre

Richard Fiennes, jure uxoris 7th Baron Dacre 'of the South' in Herstmonceux Castle, Sussex, England, was the son of Sir Roger Fiennes and Elizabeth Holland.[1] His paternal uncle was James Fiennes, 1st Baron Saye and Sele. His maternal grandparents were John Holland, 1st Duke of Exeter and Elizabeth of Lancaster, Duchess of Exeter

Richard's father, Sir Roger Fiennes, was the Member of Parliament (M.P.) for Sussex.[2] He was invested as a Knight before 8 June 1422.[2] He held the office of Treasurer of the Household between 1439 and 1446,[2] and built Herstmonceux Castle with spoils from the Hundred Years' War. Sir Roger was a brother of James Fiennes, 1st Baron Saye and Sele. He married Elizabeth Holland and had a son, Sir Richard.

Richard married Joan Dacre, 7th Baroness Dacre in June 1446.

Sir Richard Fiennes was the hereditary keeper of Herstmonceaux Castle, an office which descended in the Fiennes family until the execution of the ninth baron. By patent of 7 November 1458 King Henry VI of England accepted him as Lord Dacre, and by two writs in 1459 and 1482 Fiennes was summoned to Parliament as Baron Dacre. In 1473 the King made the final award of the lands of the sixth Baron Dacre between the heir male, Humphrey Dacre, the younger of Joan’s two surviving uncles; and the heir general, Richard Fiennes, in right of his wife Joan Dacre, who had succeeded to the suo jure title on 5 January 1458.

Most of the estates went to the heir male with remainder to the heir general while the peerage went to Richard Fiennes in right of his wife. Peerage lawyers have claimed that Richard Fiennes’s summons to parliament created a new barony; for, though his wife was a peeress in her own right, his summons was not a courtesy one. J. Horace Round held that the award of 1473 assigning the heir general and her husband precedence of the old barony, over that of the heir male, was a recognition of his wife’s accession to the original barony.

Children of Richard Fiennes and Joan Dacre:

• Sir John Fiennes, born c.1447 in Herstmonceux Castle, Sussex, England; married Alice FitzHugh; father of Thomas Fiennes, 8th Baron Dacre
• Sir Thomas Fiennes
• Sir William Fiennes, 1st Viscount Saye and Sele
• Elizabeth Fiennes, married John de Clinton, 6th Baron Clinton, great-grandfather of Edward Clinton, 1st Earl of Lincoln
• Richard Fiennes
• Roger Fiennes

Another unnamed daughter is stated in the 1623 Heralds' Visitation of Gloucestershire to have been the 1st and short-lived wife of Sir Walter Denys(d.1505) of Alveston, Glos., son & heir of Maurice Denys:[3] "...da. to...ffines L. Dacres of the South 1 wiffe"

Sources

• 1. ^ http://www.thePeerage.com
• 2 .^ : a b c Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 3, page 3532. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
• 3. ^ Maclean, Sir John (ed.) The Visitation of the County of Gloucester Taken in the Year 1623 by Henry Chitty & John Phillipot, London, 1885, p.50, Dennis
• Generations of Margaret Fiennes, Baroness Dacre
• The Fiennes family
• From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Fiennes,_7th_Baron_Dacre _________________
• Sir Richard Fiennes, 7th Lord Dacre of the South, Sheriff of Surrey & Sussex1,2,3
• M, #77349, b. circa 1425, d. 25 November 1483
• Father Sir Roger Fiennes, Sheriff of Surrey & Sussex, Constable of Porchester4,5,6 b. 14 Sep 1384
• Mother Elizabeth Holand4,5,6 b. c 1402, d. a Apr 1441
• Sir Richard Fiennes, 7th Lord Dacre of the South, Sheriff of Surrey & Sussex was born circa 1425 at of Herstmonceux, Sussex, England.2 He married Joan Dacre, daughter of Sir Thomas Dacre and Elizabeth Bowet, circa June 1446; They had 5 sons (Sir John; Sir Thomas; Richard; William; & Roger) and 1 daughter (Elizabeth, wife of John, 6th Lord Clinton).1,7,2,3 Sir Richard Fiennes, 7th Lord Dacre of the South, Sheriff of Surrey & Sussex died on 25 November 1483 at Hurstmonceaux, Sussex, England; Buried at Hurstmonceux, Sussex.1,2,3
• Family Joan Dacre b. c 1433, d. 8 Mar 1486
• Children
  • Sir John Fiennes+8 d. b 20 Sep 1483
  • Elizabeth Fiennes+1,2 b. c 1448
  • Sir Thomas Fiennes+9,2,3 b. c 1454, d. 8 Feb 1526
• Citations
• 1.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. III, p. 316; Vol. IV, p. 8-9.
• 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 642-643.
• 3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 510.
• 4.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. IV, p. 8.
• 5.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 642.
• 6.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 509.
• 7.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 250-251.
• 8.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. V, p. 432; Vol. IV, p. 9.
• 9.[S387] Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis., p. 12.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2574.htm#... ______________________
• Sir Richard Fiennes1
• M, #17427, d. 25 November 1483
• Last Edited=25 Feb 2009
• Sir Richard Fiennes was the son of Sir Roger Fiennes and Elizabeth Holland.2 He married Joan Dacre, Baroness Dacre, daughter of Sir Thomas Dacre and Elizabeth Bowett, circa June 1446.3 He married Philippa Dacre, daughter of Sir Thomas Dacre and Elizabeth Bowett, circa June 1446.4 He died on 25 November 1483.5
• Children of Sir Richard Fiennes and Joan Dacre, Baroness Dacre
  • 1.Sir John Fiennes+6 d. b 1486
  • 2.Elizabeth Fiennes2
• Citations
• 1.[S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 3, page 3532. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
• 2.[S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
• 3.[S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 824.
• 4.[S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 1013.
• 5.[S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 1014.
• 6.[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume II, page 135. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
• From: http://thepeerage.com/p1743.htm#i17427 ______________________
• Richard FIENNES (1° B. Dacre of the South)
• Born: ABT 1415 /1430, Hurstmonceux, Sussex, England
• Died: 25 Nov 1483, Hurstmonceux, Sussex, England
• Notes: The Dacre family offers the leading case in peerage law involving issues of conflict arising from land tenure and representation of blood. Joan Dacre, according to modern peerage doctrine, was the seventh Baroness Dacre. She married in 1446 Sir Richard Fiennes. Another sister, Phillippa Dacre, married Robert Fiennes, brother of Sir Richard, but she died without issue within her grandfather Dacre’s time. Sir Richard Fiennes was hereditary keeper of Herstmonceaux Castle, an office which descended in the family until the execution of the ninth baron. By patent of 7 Nov 1458 King Henry VI accepted him as Lord Dacre, and by two writs in 1459 and 1482 Fiennes was summoned to Parliament as Baron Dacre. In 1473 the King made the final award of the lands of the sixth Baron Dacre between the heir male, Humphrey Dacre, the younger of Joan’s two uncles; and the heir general, Richard Fiennes, in right of his wife Joan Dacre. Most of the estates went to the heir male with remainder to the heir general while the peerage went to Richard Fiennes in right of his wife. Peerage lawyers have claimed that Richard Fiennes’s summons to parliament created a new barony; for, though his wife was a peeress in her own right, his summons was not a courtesy one. J. Horace Round held that the award of 1473 assigning the heir general and her husband precedence of the old barony, over that of the heir male, was a recognition of his wife’s accession to the original barony.
• Father: Roger FIENNES (Sir)
• Mother: Elizabeth HOLLAND
• Married: Joan DACRE (B. Dacre of Gillesland) Jun 1446, Hurstmonceaux, Sussex, England
• Children:
  • 1. John FIENNES (Sir Knight)
  • 2. Thomas FIENNES (Sir Knight)
  • 3. William FIENNES
  • 4. Elizabeth FIENNES (B. Clinton of Marstoke)
  • 5. Richard FIENNES
  • 6. Roger FIENNES
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/FIENNES.htm#Richard FIENNES (1° B. Dacre of the South) ____________________________
• Links
• http://gen.cookancestry.com/getperson.php?personID=I17551&tree=1
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_de_Dacre_Baroness_Dacre_of_Gilsland
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Dacre_%281410%E2%80%931448%29
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Fiennes

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As a result of his marriage, Sir Richard Fiennes was styled as 7th Lord Dacre in right of his wife on 9 October 1459