Sir Thomas Neville, Kt.

• Sir Thomas Neville1
• M, #1140, b. circa 1480, d. 29 May 1542
• Last Edited=18 Jan 2011
• Sir Thomas Neville was born circa 1480.1 He was the son of Sir George Neville, 2nd Lord Abergavenny and Margaret Fenne.1 He married, firstly, Catherine Dacre, daughter of Humphrey Dacre, 1st Lord Dacre (of Gilsland) and Mabel Parr, before 1527.1 He married, secondly, Elizabeth (?) on 28 August 1532.1 He died on 29 May 1542.1
• He held the office of Sheriff of Staffordshire in 1510.1 He held the office of Secretary of State to King Henry VIII.1 He held the office of Speaker of the House of Commons in 1514.1 He held the office of Sheriff of Staffordshire in 1515.1 He held the office of Member of the Star Chamber in 1519.1 He held the office of Justice of the Peace (J.P.) for Worcestershire.1 He held the office of Justice of the Peace (J.P.) for Surrey.1 He held the office of Justice of the Peace (J.P.) for Middlesex.1 He held the office of Justice of the Peace (J.P.) for Kent.1 He held the office of Justice of the Peace (J.P.) for Sussex.1 He held the office of Member of Parliament (M.P.) for Kent.1 He was invested as a Privy Counsellor (P.C.).1 He lived at Mereworth, Kent, England.1 He held the office of Steward of Westminster Abbey in 1532.1
• Child of Sir Thomas Neville and Catherine Dacre
  • 1.Margaret Neville1
• Citations
• 1.[S8] Volume 1, page 18. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S8]
• From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p114.htm#i1140 ____________________
• Thomas NEVILLE (Sir Knight)
• Born: ABT 1475, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales
• Acceded: Mereworth, Kent
• Died: 29 May 1542
• Buried: Mereworth Church, Kent
• Notes: Sheriff of Staffordshire in 1510. He held the office of Speaker of the House of Commons in 1514. He held the office of Secretary of State to King Henry VIII. Sheriff of Staffordshire in 1515. He held the office of Member of the Star Chamber in 1519. He was invested as a Privy Councillor. M.P. for Kent. J.P. for Kent, Middlesex, Surrey, Sussex and Worcestershire. He lived at Mereworth, Kent, England. Steward of Westminster Abbey in 1532. His second wife, Elizabeth Bryce, was the granddaughter of a London goldsmith, Sir Hugh Bryce (d. 22 Sep 1496) and his wife, Elizabeth Chester (d. 1504). It is not certain when her father, James, died, but Elizabeth was still underage and unmarried in 1498. She married another goldsmith, Robert Amadas (b. 1470 - d. BEF 14 Apr 1532). They had two daughters, Elizabeth, who died before her parents, and Thomasine. In 1526, Robert Amadas was appointed Master of the Jewel House to Henry VIII. Amadas owned a house in Aldersgate and land in Essex. Upon his death, Elizabeth inherited Jenkins, a “mansion house” in Barking, and on 28 Aug 1532, married Sir Thomas Neville in the chapel there. According to Carolly Erickson’s biography of Queen Mary, Mrs. Amadas "began, in 1533, to spread ‘ungracious’ statements about the king’s occult destiny”. She said these prophesies had been known to her for some twenty years. She kept a “painted roll of her predictions” which included battles and deaths and conquest by Scotland, as well as Anne Boleyn’s death within six months by being burnt at the stake. The story that Mrs. Amadas claimed, in 1532, that she had once been the King’s mistress, has fairly wide circulation. Since she specified that she met him in Sir William Compton’s house in Thames Street, this must have been before Compton’s death in 1528 . Elizabeth Amadas was arrested for her treasonous statements and Amadas was ordered to pay several hundred pounds to the crown, although whether to free his wife or because there was plate missing from the Jewel House is not clear. Sharon Jansen, in Dangerous Talk and Strange Behavior, doesn't think the self-proclaimed prophet was Elizabeth Bryce at all. Jansen identifies the Mrs. Amadas who compared herself with Catalina of Aragon and Elizabeth Stafford, Duchess of Norfolk as an abused wife as the wife of John Amadas (b. 1489 - d. 1554/5), a member of the King's household with properties in Devon, Cornwall, and Kent. He was married by 1519, but his wife's name is unknown. They had a son and a daughter and she had died by 1542, when he remarried.
• Father: George NEVILLE (2° B. Abergavenny)
• Mother: Margaret FENNE
• Married 1: Catherine DACRE (B. Fitzhugh) 1518, Gillesland, Northumberland, England
• Children:
  • 1. Margaret NEVILLE
• Married 2: Elizabeth BRYCE (d. BEF 1542) (dau. of James Bryce) (w. of Robert Amadas) 28 Aug 1532, Raby, Durham, England
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/NEVILLE4.htm#Thomas NEVILLE (Sir Knight)1 _________________________
• Sir Thomas Neville or Nevill (by 1484 – 29 May 1542) was a younger son of George Neville, 4th Baron Bergavenny. He was a prominent lawyer and a trusted councillor of King Henry VIII, and was elected Speaker of the House of Commons in 1515.
• Neville was the fifth son of George Neville, 4th Baron Bergavenny (1436–1492), by his first wife, Margaret Fenne (d. 28 September 1485), the daughter and heir of Sir Hugh Fenne of Scoulton, Norfolk, Treasurer of the Household to King Henry VI.[1][2]
• Although there is no formal record of his legal education,[3] Neville was a member of Gray's Inn, and by 1514 had begun to oversee the legal process by which tenants in chief of the Crown sued out their liveries to obtain possession of their estates. In 1529 he was appointed to supervise the suing out of all liveries involving lands in England, Wales and Calais.[4] Between the years 1516 and 1527 he was also in frequent attendance at meetings of King Henry VIII's council, and was active in both Star Chamber and the Court of Requests. It is said that by 1522, of the Masters of Requests only he and Sir Thomas More had access to the King.[2]
• Details of Neville's early Parliamentary career are unclear, although it is likely he represented a constituency in Kent. On 8 February 1515 he was chosen Speaker of the House of Commons, and knighted by Henry VIII in the presence of both houses, 'a mark of distinction thought to be without precedent'.[4] After his term as Speaker he appears to have left Parliament, but continued to serve at court, where he had livery in Henry VIII's household in 1519. He was a signatory to at least two treaties, and was present at both the Field of Cloth of Gold and Henry VIII's meeting with Emperor Charles V. He is recorded as having received a New Year's gift from the King in 1533, and was among the courtiers present when Anne of Cleves was welcomed at Dover.[2]
• In 1521 his eldest brother, George Neville, 5th Baron Bergavenny, was disgraced, and was compelled to sell his principal manor of Birling in Kent to the Crown. In 1538 another of his brothers, Sir Edward Neville, was executed. However the misfortunes which befell his brothers appear to have had no affect on Neville's own career.[2][4]
• In 1535 he was involved in unsuccessful negotiations to marry his only child, Margaret, to Gregory Cromwell, the son of Henry VIII's chief minister, Thomas Cromwell.[4] Thomas Cromwell is said to have chosen Margaret's eventual husband, Sir Robert Southwell.[4][2]
• Although he did not acquire extensive lands, Neville was wealthy enough to lend money to other courtiers, including the King's brother-in-law, Charles Brandon, 1st Duke of Suffolk, and Henry Percy, 5th Earl of Northumberland.[2]
• Neville made his will on 23 May 1542, appointing as executors his cousin, Sir Thomas Willoughby, Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, and Sir John Baker. He died six days later, and was buried in Mereworth church in Kent, where he is commemorated by a memorial brass.[4][2]
• Neville married firstly Katherine (née Dacre), widow of George, 8th Baron FitzHugh (d. 28 January 1513), and daughter of Humphrey Dacre, 1st Baron Dacre of Gilsland and Mabel Parr, the daughter of Sir Thomas Parr (d. 24 November 1464),[5][6] by whom he had an only child, Margaret Neville, who on 1 May 1536 married Sir Robert Southwell. After the death of Sir Robert Southwell, Margaret married William Plumbe. She died 25 December 1575, and was buried in the Church of St Giles at Wyddial, Hertfordshire, where there is a memorial brass commemorating her.[7]
• Neville married secondly Elizabeth (née Bryce), widow of Robert Amadas (d. 7 April 1532), a London goldsmith and Master of Henry VIII's Jewel House, who predeceased him, and by whom he left no issue.[4][2]
• From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Nevill _____________________
• NEVILLE, Thomas (by 1484-1542), of Mereworth, Kent and London.
• b. by 1484, 5th s. of George, 4th Lord Bergavenny, by 1st w. Margaret, da. and h. of Hugh Fenne of Sculton Burdeleys, Norf. and Braintree, Essex. m. Catherine, da. of Humphrey, 1st Lord Dacre of Gilsland, wid. of George, 8th Lord FitzHugh (d. 28 Jan. 1513), 1da.; (2) lic. 28 Aug. 1532, Elizabeth, wid. of Robert Amadas (d.1531/32) of London. Kntd. 8 Feb. 1515.1
• From: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/ne... _________________________
• Sir George Neville, Lord Abergavenny1,2,3,4,5,6
• M, #22275, b. circa 1440, d. 20 September 1492
• Father Sir Edward Neville, 1st Baron Abergavenny7,8,9 b. c 1412, d. 18 Oct 1476
• Mother Elizabeth Beauchamp7,8,9 b. 16 Sep 1415, d. 18 Jun 1448
• Sir George Neville, Lord Abergavenny was christened circa 1440 at Staindrop, Durham, England.8,5 He was born circa 1440 at Raby Castle, Durham, England; Age 36 in 1476.2,8,5 He married Margaret Fenne, daughter of Hugh Fenne, Esq., Treasurer of the Household to King Henry VI, Escheator of Norfolk & Suffolk, circa 1466 at of Scoulton, Norfolk, England; They had 6 sons (Sir George, Lord Bergavenny; John; William; Sir Edward; Sir Thomas, Speaker of the House of Commons; & Sir Richard) and 1 daughter (Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Berkeley, Esq., & of Richard Covert, Esq.).2,10,3,5,6 Sir George Neville, Lord Abergavenny married Elizabeth before 29 February 1488 at of London, Middlesex, England; She had been married 3 times before (Richard Naylor, Alderman of London; Sir Robert Bassett, Alderman, Sheriff & Lord Mayor of London; & John Stokker, Alderman of London). No issue from her marriage to Sir George Neville.2,10,4,5 Sir George Neville, Lord Abergavenny died on 20 September 1492; Buried at Lewes Priory, Sussex.10,5 His estate was probated in January 1496.10,5
• Family 1 Margaret Fenne b. 1444, d. 28 Sep 1485
• Children
  • Elizabeth Neville+11,3,5,6 b. c 1467, d. a 1500
  • Sir George Neville, Lord Abergavenny, Constable of Dover Castle, Warden of the Cinque Ports+12,10,5 b. c 1469
  • Sir Edward Neville, Constable of Leeds Castle, Justice of the Peace for Kent+10,5 b. c 1471, d. 9 Jan 1539
• Family 2 Elizabeth
• Citations
• 1.[S6875] Unknown author, Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles by Gerald Paget; Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, by David Faris, p. 212; Wallop Family, p. 585; Stemmata Robertson, p. 241/2.
• 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 94.
• 3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 175-176.
• 4.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 185.
• 5.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 322.
• 6.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 594.
• 7.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 93-94.
• 8.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 167.
• 9.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 320-321.
• 10.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 168-169.
• 11.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 313.
• 12.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 94-95.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p742.htm#i... __________________________
• Links
• http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/so...
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Southwell_(sheriff)
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Nevill,_4th_Baron_Bergavenny

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